Taking Greenland Would Trigger a NATO Crisis (w/ Mark Hertling) | The Bulwark Podcast

To the people who have actually served in war zones—and been up close and personal in real do-or-die situations—the masked, heavily armed agents who are stalking our streets are thugs and cowards. And they would be nobodies without the badges and guns that have been gratuitously handed to them. Meanwhile, amid all the action around Venezuela, Russia's relentless attacks on Ukraine's power sources in the dead of winter is being overlooked by much of the American media. And Trump's talk about Greenland has the Swedes talking about making nuclear weapons. Plus, airstrikes on Iran alone would miss the strategic mark, Trump still hasn't stopped eight-plus wars, and the Havana Syndrome is real. Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling joins Tim Miller. Show Notes: Mark's piece on Iran: https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/strikes-on-iran-should-be-a-last-resort-trump-protests?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Mark's calling for ICE agents to remove their masks: https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/take-the-masks-off-ice-immigration-minneapolis-iraq-police-army-resistance-trump-powell-fed-democrats?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Most recent episode of Sarah's 'Illegal News' pod with Asha Rangappa: https://youtu.be/EomE2wwfOIo?si=PhVZLR117GH-z7q1 Follow "Bulwark Takes" to get the latest "Command Post" from Mark:  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJNKzTkCZE9uaKfaz27yuWgFe1XnP19WL Daniel Dale's fact check of Trump: https://x.com/ddale8/status/2011221566856552608?s=20 Get $30 off your first box and free Croissants for life when you visit Wildgrain.com/THEBULWARK, or use promo code THEBULWARK at checkout Get 50% off 1 month of Trade at drinktrade.com/BULWARK Chapters: 00:00 Welcome and state of the chaos 02:15 ICE masks power and accountability 07:10 Public backlash and political risk 08:55 Minneapolis killing and use of force 13:22 Wildgrain 14:10 Iran protests and regime brutality 19:30 Why airstrikes are not a strategy 25:30 Venezuela and mission drift 30:20 Greenland invasion planning madness 31:01 Trade 36:30 NATO allies alarmed and strained 41:05 Ukraine battlefield and civilian suffering 46:35 Command Post and information overload 49:40 Trump’s “wars solved” claim examined 53:00 Havana syndrome and hidden weapons Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join