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Minnesota Solidarity is Beating Trump's Goon Squad (w/ Ta-Nehisi Coates) | The Bulwark Podcast

2026-01-29 News & Politics
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Trump has decidedly built a white supremacist army within the government. And this was always the risk when the Department of Homeland Security was created after 9-11. Influential people warned at the time that our norms would not protect us against someone who was determined to violate them using DHS. At the same time, white people are putting themselves on the line in a way that is reminiscent of the abolitionists. Plus, some often overlooked elements of the Civil Rights Movement, Jared Kushner’s offensive and absurd vision for a “New Gaza,” and the destruction of a jewel of journalism that was CBS. Ta-Nehisi Coates joins Tim Miller. Snag the hoodie that will bring you comfort for life, the American Giant Classic Full Zip. Go to https://www.american-giant.com and get 20% off your first order with promo code BULWARK. Thanks to American Giant for sponsoring the show! Show notes: Ta-Nehisi's most recent piece in Vanity Fair: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/tanehisi-coates-homeland-ice-minneapolis-trump The CBS interview with Ta-Nehisi referenced in the show: https://youtu.be/qgWt-QcPYMo?si=pmkuSW0iv0x6e6Aa Tickets for the live show in Minnesota go on sale Friday: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/bulwark-events Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join Chapters: 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:25 What “homeland” signals in American politics 00:03:27 DHS roots: war on terror meets border security 00:06:45 Obama era backlash and a shift in the public mood 00:08:20 A politics untethered from truth 00:12:02 Countering propaganda with basic decency 00:15:43 Ad break: American Giant 00:17:14 Remembering Viola Liuzzo and state smears 00:20:16 Why ICE/CBP feels different now 00:26:15 2020 vs now: movements, language, and backlash 00:39:20 Minnesota update + Fulton County ballots raid 00:42:41 Kushner’s Gaza “master plan” and moral costs 00:47:31 CBS & media consolidation

Top Comments (10)

@MarlaS-y8q 2026-01-29

Whenever Ta-Nehisi Coates joins The Bulwark I'm all in. Thanks for having him back. Great interview.

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@rachelmichele12 2026-01-29

Mr. Coates is a great writer. I love hearing him talk about issues. Thanks Tim for having him on The Bulwark.

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@Hellojro 2026-01-29

I always value Ta-Nehisi Coates point of view. He always brings research and insights that make me want to dive deeper.

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@heyitsmesj 2026-01-29

God Ta-Nehisi Coates is so frigging good. His point about the messiness of movement work is right on; that's the richness of the human experience right there. We're messy and irritating and all in this together. And like, he gathered Tim's exasperation in the gentlest way possible, but I bet Tim gives that some thought now. Y'all together are great. 11/10 would listen again.

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@ClaytonBanes 2026-01-29

Minnesota Solidarity Is Beating Trump's Goon Squad.

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@elizabethwalker2916 2026-01-29

Ta-Nehisi Coates is a wonderful man and writer! Thanks Tim for inviting him on your show today.

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@pasherri 2026-01-29

I love Ta-Nehisi Coates. I’m glad to see him here.

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@Jilla0559 2026-01-29

Real Irony is Stephen Miller is the descendant of ASYLUM seekers from the Holocaust

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@shastabell5415 2026-01-30

Ta-Nehisi, I have never felt so deeply complimented and relieved to hear you say we in Minneapolis have “become woke in the best possible way”. We still have a lot of work to do, it’s not done. But we have done some soul searching as a city since 2020 and this is the fruit. Thank you, that felt like a supportive hug when we really needed it.

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@hopespringseternal8069 2026-01-30

The Fulton County thing makes it feel like the TOTALITARIAN STATE HAS ARRIVED

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