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JD Vance is Really, Really Bad At This (w/ Jon Favreau) | The Bulwark Podcast

2025-10-22 News & Politics
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Examining ICE Overreach, Political Rhetoric Consequences, and Democratic Strategy in Maine

Understand how Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents detain American citizens, threatening basic constitutional freedoms. Learn why political leaders must curb violent rhetoric and how Democrats should craft winning coalitions against the rising authoritarian threat.

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  • Detentions by ICE agents challenge the foundational American promise of walking freely without government harassment.
  • Pardons issued by Donald Trump for January 6th defendants correlate with escalating threats against Democratic leaders.
  • Political operators debated whether Democrats should directly address polarizing immigration issues or pivot solely to kitchen table economics.
  • Maine offers a crucial test case for balancing the need for experienced candidates against leveraging "wild card" profiles in winnable, high-stakes races.

This discussion between Tim Miller and Jon Favreau analyzes alarming civil liberties abuses by federal agents, the toxic consequence of partisan name-calling fueling real-world violence, and strategic considerations for Democrats in crucial upcoming Senate races. Readers gain insight into which political narratives currently resonate best with working-class voters and why certain foundational freedoms remain paramount.

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One of the promises of this country has been the freedom to walk down the street without being harassed by the government. But even being an American citizen isn’t stopping ICE agents from grabbing people with passports or IDs—and detaining them for hours. At the same time, many of the thugs and sadists who want to do the grabbing and snatching are pathetically failing basic physical fitness tests. Plus, JD is painfully unfunny, Republicans calling Democrats ‘terrorists’ has real world consequences, and Dems need more normal people running for office—but they should save the wild card candidates for long shot races. Jon Favreau joins Tim Miller. Go to https://wildalaskan.com/BULWARK for $35 off your first box of premium, wild-caught seafood. Show Notes: - Pod Save America interview with Graham Platner: https://youtu.be/uMnc4ddc7j4?si=Di4k2Vf2eqcn24UE - The Atlantic on "ICE’s ‘Athletically Allergic’ Recruits": https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/10/ice-recruits-fitness-test-trump/684625/ - Tickets for Crooked Con in DC in November: https://www.crookedcon.com/ Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join

Top Comments (10)

@heretowatch2672 2025-10-22

Where are the Marie Antoinette style ads saying Trump needs a ballroom more than people need health care and food?

514 26 replies
@jlewis300 2025-10-22

The "ballroom" should be converted to a museum about the dangers of fascistic leaders

451 35 replies
@traviscushing2973 2025-10-22

Always love when the bulwark and pod save America cross over. It's like when the Jetsons visit the Flintstones

372 13 replies
@veronicadoggone5660 2025-10-22

George Stephenopolis cutting Vance off was the best early Christmas gift ever. 🥇

327 5 replies
@bethkopelowitz2438 2025-10-22

As a teacher, Trump’s face on the list of presidents or even seeing his name on a chart of leaders makes me feel so nauseous.

295 8 replies
@msjam1959 2025-10-22

I'd rather have health care than a ballroom

268 22 replies
@Antiasshat 2025-10-22

I 100 percent think the ballroom has to be demolished. It’s a monument to corruption.

180 11 replies
@lavirgil1 2025-10-22

It’s all symbolic representing the tearing down of the American government and constitution.

168 8 replies
@LynneAustin-r6p 2025-10-22

as a lover.of antiques and historical things, the photos of the east wing makes me sick to my stomach 🤢

131 4 replies
@usernotfound904 2025-10-22

No healthcare for the peasants, but a ballroom for the Queen! 👸🏽

100 1 replies

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