Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence — Lewis Bollard

This episode was a deep dive with Lewis Bollard, who leads Open Philanthropy’s strategy for Farmed Animal Welfare, on the surprising economics of the meat industry: Why is factory farming so efficient? How can we make the lives of the 23+ billion animals living on factory farms more bearable? How far off are the moonshots (e.g., brainless chickens, cultivated meats, etc.) to end this mass suffering? And why does the meat industry have such a surprising amount of political influence? For decades, innovation in the meat industry has actually made the conditions for animals worse — can the next few decades of tech reverse this pattern? 𝐅𝐔𝐍𝐃𝐑𝐀𝐈𝐒𝐄𝐑 If you want to contribute to our fundraiser, you can donate at https://farmkind.giving/dwarkesh. FarmKind will direct your contribution to the most effective charities in animal welfare, and I've personally pledged $250,000 as a donation match to double the impact. Please consider contributing, even if it’s a small amount. And, if you’re considering donating $50k or more, please reach out directly to Lewis and his team by emailing [email protected] 𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒 * Transcript: https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/lewis-bollard * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dwarkesh-podcast/id1516093381?i=1000721073740 * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1skct0aT2AZgA2KGD11DPR?si=54f40cb984f44db6 𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒 00:00:00 – The astonishing efficiency of factory farming 00:07:18 – It was a mistake making this about diet 00:09:54 – Tech that’s sparing 100s of millions of animals/year 00:16:16 – Brainless chickens and higher welfare breeds 00:28:21 – $1 can prevent 10 years of animal suffering 00:37:26 – Situation in China and the developing world 00:41:41 – How the meat lobby got a lock on Congress 00:53:23 – Business structure of the meat industry 00:57:42 – Corporate campaigns are underrated