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How JS ruined the web

2025-07-20 Science & Technology
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"JavaScript ruined the web". Oh boy... Thank you Sevalla for sponsoring! Check them out at: https://soydev.link/sevalla SOURCE https://www.jonoalderson.com/conjecture/javascript-broke-the-web-and-called-it-progress/ Want to sponsor a video? Learn more here: https://soydev.link/sponsor-me Check out my Twitch, Twitter, Discord more at https://t3.gg S/O Ph4se0n3 for the awesome edit 🙏

Top Comments (10)

@llortaton2834 2025-07-20

"we're a competitor to openAI and claude" no you are not, you are a reseller that resells their API service through your wrapper. not that there is anything wrong with that, but lets be specific, you are a middleman service. If i am mistaken, please correct me

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@Deoxycation 2025-07-20

JS, in it of itself, didn’t ruin the web. Over-reliance on it, to the point where other technologies(like SSGs or templating SSRs; often better for most sites) were viewed as archaic, did

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@stephfh 2025-07-20

SEO consultants ruined the web.

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@egalanos 2025-07-20

Interaction to Next Paint (INP) is the name of the metric described if anyone wants to dig deeper.

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@shreeram-mutukundu 2025-07-20

I guess the title should be How js ruled the web

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@roundpiano 2025-08-07

I don't care about most of these things, but middle click not opening a new tab and refresh losing some crucial state forever drive me mad.

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@ZoDSeRSyLVaN 2025-07-20

a SEO consultant hate on JS is like saying they are bad at their job. If some company is using their service, for the safety of the company stop. They obviously don't have any idea what a good website that people want to visit and how to scale, left alone doing Search Engine Optimize it

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@SteveKarpik 2025-07-20

In the late 1990s and early 2000s, Jakob Nielsen championed the virtues of simple, unadorned websites focused on usability. Around the same time, I was the webmaster for a science museum, and my manager was deeply influenced by Nielsen’s philosophy. While a site designed purely for “usability” in Nielsen’s sense might be functional, it often risked being dull and visually unappealing. Sometimes, a website needs to be more than just an information delivery tool - attractiveness and interactivity, when applied thoughtfully, can be just as important.

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@shadeblackwolf1508 2025-07-20

Funny thing: uncle bob once said "if i open your codebase i should see the high level structure of your business logic, not your framework and MVC structure." I think for a browser based app the T3 stack + Convex gets super close to that.

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@IsaacAnyim-fn6rn 2025-07-20

These captions are getting wilder . i almost had a heart attack

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