Bizarre negotiations and intel back channels
Bizarre US-Ukraine Diplomacy and Intelligence Back Channels
Analyze the recent, seemingly contradictory US-Ukraine talks in Florida and uncover the potential secret back channels involving intelligence figures that dictate peace prospects.
Short Summary
- US negotiators (Kushner, Wickoff) met Ukrainian reps (Umeov) in Miami, yielding no substantive progress on core issues like NATO or troop withdrawal.
- The meeting is framed as "theater" because the US effectively controls Kyiv's diplomacy and funding, suggesting the US could negotiate directly with Russia.
- Speculation centers on the sidelining of intelligence chief Budanov, who reportedly maintains secret contacts with Russian counterparts (FSB) regarding the "dirty war."
- Russia confirms it will only negotiate serious terms (Ukraine neutrality, territorial concessions) with the US directly, not intermediaries.
- The conflict ending diplomatically requires direct US-Russia talks, mirroring historical outcomes in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
This discussion parses the apparent stalemate in recent US-Ukraine diplomatic meetings in Florida. Speakers analyze why the US maintains pretense of negotiating with an already controlled partner, contrasting it with the hardline stance coming from Moscow regarding direct engagement.
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Top Comments (10)
Brian Beretics says that americans don't want peace at all, and that they just try a Minsk 3.0 settlement because Russia IS winning on the battelfield. I believe he's absolutely right
NATO are idiots. They said preemptive strikes against Russia is a possibility. You do not deter nuclear powers by normalising first strike talk.
It's all theater.... Putin will dictate the terms for the surrender of Ukraine.
"Pretending to negotiate" is accurate. Thank you for that.
So sick of the US belief that it has the right to rule the entire world
"Rubio, Witkoff and Kushner ..." WALK INTO A BAR. 😂 It's a joke, just like the negotiations 😁
A Ukrainian mafia meeting with an American mafia trying to discuss with real authorities in Russia, won't work.
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The Truth of "Bizarre negotiations and intel back channels" cannot be understated
The US and the West are stalling for time.
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Top Comments (10)
Brian Beretics says that americans don't want peace at all, and that they just try a Minsk 3.0 settlement because Russia IS winning on the battelfield. I believe he's absolutely right
NATO are idiots. They said preemptive strikes against Russia is a possibility. You do not deter nuclear powers by normalising first strike talk.
It's all theater.... Putin will dictate the terms for the surrender of Ukraine.
"Pretending to negotiate" is accurate. Thank you for that.
So sick of the US belief that it has the right to rule the entire world
"Rubio, Witkoff and Kushner ..." WALK INTO A BAR. 😂 It's a joke, just like the negotiations 😁
A Ukrainian mafia meeting with an American mafia trying to discuss with real authorities in Russia, won't work.
LIKE. SHARE. COMMENT JOIN THE DURAN ON SUBSTACK: https://theduran.substack.com/
The Truth of "Bizarre negotiations and intel back channels" cannot be understated
The US and the West are stalling for time.