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Whistleblower details UAP encounter: What is the CIA hiding? | Reality Check

2026-01-13 News & Politics
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In this episode of "Reality Check," Ross Coulthart sits down with former CIA operative John Kiriakou, who served as a counterterrorism officer and was the first U.S. official to confirm CIA torture of detainees. He was punished for being a whistleblower, serving nearly two years in a federal prison. Since his release, he has become a leading advocate for transparency, civil liberties and whistleblower protections. Together, they discuss President Donald Trump's decision to capture ousted Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro, whether U.S. troops will attack Iran and why the U.S. government won't admit to a UAP retrieval operation. Keep up with John's podcast here: https://johnkiriakou.com/ Listen to David Grusch's NewsNation Special: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBAISwCZ2v0&t=1s #JohnKiriakou #CIA #UAP CREDITS Host: Ross Coulthart Executive Producer: Andy Gipson Editorial Producer: Meagan Medick Segment Producer: Christine Jenkinson Associate Producer: Will Tomasi Editor: Irit Nayden, Anthony Diasio On "Reality Check," NewsNation Special Correspondent Ross Coulthart takes a fact-based approach to tackle everything from unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) to mysteries often missing from the headlines. More Reality Check: https://www.newsnationnow.com/podcasts-newsnation/reality-check-with-ross-coulthart/ Email your questions to [email protected] NewsNation is your source for fact-based, unbiased news for all Americans. More from NewsNation: https://www.newsnationnow.com/ Get our app: https://trib.al/TBXgYpp Find us on your screen: https://www.joinnn.com/ CHAPTERS 0:00 - INTRO 3:00 - WAS TRUMP'S CAPTURE OF MADURO A GOOD IDEA? 21:00 - WILL TRUMP BOMB IRAN? 24:53 - INTERROGATING ABU ZUBAYDAH 30:00 - IS "ZERO DARK THIRTY" FALSE? 31:00 - FINDING OSAMA BIN LADEN 35:00 - ISI'S 38:30 - THE U.S. TORTURE PROGRAM 49:00 - INSIDE THE CIA AND HISTORY 53:05 - IS THE CIA HIDING UAP RETRIEVAL CRAFTS? 1:08:00- OUTRO

Top Comments (10)

@marionfriedenthal7352 2026-01-13

And they destroyed Bob Lazars life to cover their reverse engineering project.

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@Eksraytek 2026-01-14

I've watched multiple interviews with John Kiriaku and one thing I've learned is that when you're telling the truth, it's the same no matter who you are being interviewed by. This CIA agent has never wavered in his responses. I've come to enjoy listening to him.

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@andreacampbell8357 2026-01-15

Maduro said 'Come get me!'

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@D4Shepherd 2026-01-14

Regarding what happened after the US took Baghdad under GWB/Cheney Admin- The precursor to the civil war within Iraq that followed btwn Sunni & Shia, ultimately resulted from Ambassador Paul Bremer’s orders to disband Saddam’s military bc they were Baathists, upon his arrival after the air assault had been completed . He sent them all packing, WITH THEIR WEAPONS. Now you have a disbanded military with weapons, but no jobs, no way to feed their families.. just their weapons. Genius. I have not forgotten any of what happened following 9/11. John Kiriakou is an actual American hero. Excellentt interview

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@rickb1387 2026-01-27

And again thank you Ross for making this possible.

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@novacanning1734 2026-01-15

I love unbiased media

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@fabricattogeneral9401 2026-01-17

I couldn't believe my eyes, two of my favorite people talking to one another. Both of you are such eloquent speakers in your own way. A dream come true!

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@agilbertatucb 2026-01-14

Mossad be like … hold my beer

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@povethestud 2026-01-18

I'm not a big fan of being Waterboarded ........I MUST CONFESS ! 😆😂🤣

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@36SSB 2026-01-15

Made me smile when Ross said to John about "reluctantly being dragged down this rabbit hole" and John grins nodding head as if he knows a lot more than he can divulge.

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