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Whistleblower details UAP encounter: What is the CIA hiding? | Reality Check

2026-01-13 News & Politics
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In this episode of "Reality Check," Ross Coulthart sits down with former CIA operative John Kiriakou, who served as a counterterrorism officer and was the first U.S. official to confirm CIA torture of detainees. He was punished for being a whistleblower, serving nearly two years in a federal prison. Since his release, he has become a leading advocate for transparency, civil liberties and whistleblower protections. Together, they discuss President Donald Trump's decision to capture ousted Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro, whether U.S. troops will attack Iran and why the U.S. government won't admit to a UAP retrieval operation. Keep up with John's podcast here: https://johnkiriakou.com/ Listen to David Grusch's NewsNation Special: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBAISwCZ2v0&t=1s #JohnKiriakou #CIA #UAP CREDITS Host: Ross Coulthart Executive Producer: Andy Gipson Editorial Producer: Meagan Medick Segment Producer: Christine Jenkinson Associate Producer: Will Tomasi Editor: Irit Nayden, Anthony Diasio On "Reality Check," NewsNation Special Correspondent Ross Coulthart takes a fact-based approach to tackle everything from unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) to mysteries often missing from the headlines. More Reality Check: https://www.newsnationnow.com/podcasts-newsnation/reality-check-with-ross-coulthart/ Email your questions to [email protected] NewsNation is your source for fact-based, unbiased news for all Americans. More from NewsNation: https://www.newsnationnow.com/ Get our app: https://trib.al/TBXgYpp Find us on your screen: https://www.joinnn.com/ CHAPTERS 0:00 - INTRO 3:00 - WAS TRUMP'S CAPTURE OF MADURO A GOOD IDEA? 21:00 - WILL TRUMP BOMB IRAN? 24:53 - INTERROGATING ABU ZUBAYDAH 30:00 - IS "ZERO DARK THIRTY" FALSE? 31:00 - FINDING OSAMA BIN LADEN 35:00 - ISI'S 38:30 - THE U.S. TORTURE PROGRAM 49:00 - INSIDE THE CIA AND HISTORY 53:05 - IS THE CIA HIDING UAP RETRIEVAL CRAFTS? 1:08:00- OUTRO

Top Comments (10)

@rickb1387 2026-01-27

And again thank you Ross for making this possible.

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@kueblerkarkaroake 2026-01-14

I've watched multiple interviews with John Kiriaku and one thing I've learned is that when you're telling the truth, it's the same no matter who you are being interviewed by. This CIA agent has never wavered in his responses. I've come to enjoy listening to him.

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@AngelaGarcia-q3h 2026-01-27

It's a pleasure to listen to John.

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@fabricattogeneral9401 2026-01-17

I couldn't believe my eyes, two of my favorite people talking to one another. Both of you are such eloquent speakers in your own way. A dream come true!

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@ginawellington6097 2026-02-17

Best interview ever Ross! They are all Great but this was amazing.

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@karensuki333 2026-02-06

Fantastic interview! I was riveted the whole time! John Kiriakou was full of knowledge, experience and information. And Ross was his usual fantastic self! 🤩

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@Cavells.Travells 2026-01-15

Brilliant Interview Ross Coulthart - as always

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@wickamahn1852 2026-07-13

WOW! Tuned in for some UAP malarkey and got this.............outstanding stuff. Keep them coming Ross.

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@marionfriedenthal7352 2026-01-13

And they destroyed Bob Lazars life to cover their reverse engineering project.

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@universalflower857 2026-01-23

Wow what a patriot. Great interview guys

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