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The rise of Cursor: The $300M ARR AI tool that engineers can’t stop using | Michael Truell

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*Michael Truell* is the co-founder and CEO of Anysphere, the company behind Cursor—the fastest-growing AI code editor in the world, reaching $300 million in annual recurring revenue just two years after its launch. In this conversation, Michael shares his vision for the future, lessons learned, and advice for preparing for the fast-approaching AI future. *What you’ll learn:* 1. Cursor's early pivot from automating CAD to automating code 2. Michael’s vision for “what comes after code” and how programming will evolve 3. Why Cursor built their own custom AI models despite not starting there 4. Key lessons from Cursor’s rapid growth 5. Why “taste” and logic design will become more valuable engineering skills than technical coding ability 6. Why the market for AI coding tools is much larger than people realize—and why there will likely be one dominant winner 7. Michael’s advice for engineers and product teams preparing for the AI future *Transcript:* https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-rise-of-cursor-michael-truell *Brought to you by:* Eppo—Run reliable, impactful experiments: https://www.geteppo.com/ Vanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security: https://vanta.com/lenny OneSchema—Import CSV data 10x faster: https://oneschema.co/lenny *Where to find Michael Truell:* • X: https://x.com/mntruell • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-t-5b1bbb122/ • Website: https://mntruell.com/ *In this episode, we cover:* (00:00) Introduction to Michael Truell and Cursor (04:20) What comes after code (08:32) The importance of taste (12:39) Cursor’s origin story (18:31) Why they chose to build an IDE (22:39) Will everyone become engineering managers? (24:31) How they decided it was time to ship (26:45) Reflecting on Cursor's success (32:03) Counterintuitive lessons on building AI products (34:02) Inside Cursor's stack (38:42) Defensibility and market dynamics in AI (46:13) Tips for using Cursor (51:25) Hiring and building a strong team (59:10) Staying focused amid rapid AI advancements (01:02:31) Final thoughts and advice for aspiring AI innovators *Referenced:* • Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ • Microsoft Copilot: https://copilot.microsoft.com/ • Scaling laws for neural language models: https://openai.com/index/scaling-laws-for-neural-language-models/ • MIT: https://www.mit.edu/ • Telegram: https://telegram.org/ • Signal: https://signal.org/ • WhatsApp: https://www.whatsapp.com/ • Devin: https://devin.ai/ • Visual Studio Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/ • Chromium: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/base/ • Exploring ChatGPT (GPT) Wrappers—What They Are and How They Work: https://learnprompting.org/blog/gpt_wrappers • OpenAI’s CPO on how AI changes must-have skills, moats, coding, startup playbooks, more | Kevin Weil (CPO at OpenAI, ex-Instagram, Twitter): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/kevin-weil-open-ai • Behind the founder: Marc Benioff: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/behind-the-founder-marc-benioff • DALL-E 3: https://openai.com/index/dall-e-3/ • Stable Diffusion 3: https://stability.ai/news/stable-diffusion-3 _Production and marketing by https://penname.co/._ _For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected]._ Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.

Top Comments (10)

@hl236 2025-05-01

downloaded on my phone. looking forward to listening to this in the car tomorrow. Thank you algorithm. The Cursor team is cracked!

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@arksklar 2025-05-25

What I construe from Truell's is an independent AI agent that looks like a hybrid between an invisible ghost and multitentacled octopus with his arms touching every piece of the project on one hand and understands your mind processes on the other hand.

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@wilsonluo4830 2025-05-03

Lenny really asked very good questions in a good format, love this!

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@soundformovement 2025-05-01

Been a fan of Michael and the team for some time! Such smart folks and allowing us all to build software. Thank you for this interview! ❤🎉

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@neoloaded 2025-05-01

Interesting take on "English-language like pseudo code" as the next abstraction layer over formal high-level programming languages. Good to learn that they are not just improving the workflow experience, but also investing in developing their custom models. Interesting to learn that they started developing a custom IDE but dropped that in favour of VSCode. That decision would have helped them invest in custom models.

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@StefDelbecque 2025-05-02

Started listening to it, and it was so good I decided to forward it to my entire Product/AI team. Thanks guys!

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@tmitchel2 2025-05-04

FYI - Not sure why but this video IS NOT available on mobile in the UK, can see it on the regular site though...

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@11abhishek11 2025-05-04

Loved the ads

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@stevenbenmoha2162 2025-05-04

Great interview, asked pretty much everything I’d be curious about

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@DL-gx5cr 2025-05-07

Fascinating! What a thoughtful leader! Lots of respect.

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