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Top Comments (10)
This feels like a massive injustice on all counts for this case.
Didn't the jury instructions literally say not to tell the judge what was happening until they had reached a verdict on all counts? Judge BEV's opinion is she is an advocate for whatever the commonwealth says. And she refuses to be wrong. I'm not sure snark is warranted from this judge. If I lived in MA I'd be writing the governor to complain about her behavior during trial and in this decision.
Re: demure and cursing … I do not spew profanities. I enunciate them clearly, like a fucking lady! 😂
EDB should open any discussion about Karen Read with "Hear ye hear ye".
In every trial I have watched, the Judge asks if the defence if they want the jury pulled, not the defense asking the judge to pull the jury. She seems to make up her own rules as she goes along. She told the jury Not to fill out the form Unless they agreed to all charges. Why is this not being addressed? She messed up and she knows it. She had her mind up before she even considered the arguments of the defence.
I absolutely love that her reason for denying the motion is because she didn’t do her job right. She’s just happily sitting at her lake house with the Albert’s, no worries.
55:55 but they were instructed not to communicate with judge or anyone outside of jury about it! And were also instructed to not fill the verdict form unless they reached unanimous verdict on ALL charges! it is clearly misleading and confusing and it is judges fault.
Even if nothing else comes from this, perhaps this will make the case law clear up with the appellate courts.
I feel the jury notes to the judge were very clear about their deadlock only because the jury instructions were UNclear and confusing in stating that their verdict must be unanimous, which could be misconstrued as an ALL or nothing decision on the total of the charges. The jury instructions need to be rewritten (IMO) to avoid a situation like this in the future. Karen deserved better. What was the judge's hot hurry that she lit out of court like her ass was on fire?
“It’s not a lack of understanding “- I agree. The jury THOUGHT they understood when Bev said not to fill in the form until they had a reached a verdict on all counts. The problem is Bev isn’t/wont take that into consideration.
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Top Comments (10)
This feels like a massive injustice on all counts for this case.
Didn't the jury instructions literally say not to tell the judge what was happening until they had reached a verdict on all counts? Judge BEV's opinion is she is an advocate for whatever the commonwealth says. And she refuses to be wrong. I'm not sure snark is warranted from this judge. If I lived in MA I'd be writing the governor to complain about her behavior during trial and in this decision.
Re: demure and cursing … I do not spew profanities. I enunciate them clearly, like a fucking lady! 😂
EDB should open any discussion about Karen Read with "Hear ye hear ye".
In every trial I have watched, the Judge asks if the defence if they want the jury pulled, not the defense asking the judge to pull the jury. She seems to make up her own rules as she goes along. She told the jury Not to fill out the form Unless they agreed to all charges. Why is this not being addressed? She messed up and she knows it. She had her mind up before she even considered the arguments of the defence.
I absolutely love that her reason for denying the motion is because she didn’t do her job right. She’s just happily sitting at her lake house with the Albert’s, no worries.
55:55 but they were instructed not to communicate with judge or anyone outside of jury about it! And were also instructed to not fill the verdict form unless they reached unanimous verdict on ALL charges! it is clearly misleading and confusing and it is judges fault.
Even if nothing else comes from this, perhaps this will make the case law clear up with the appellate courts.
I feel the jury notes to the judge were very clear about their deadlock only because the jury instructions were UNclear and confusing in stating that their verdict must be unanimous, which could be misconstrued as an ALL or nothing decision on the total of the charges. The jury instructions need to be rewritten (IMO) to avoid a situation like this in the future. Karen deserved better. What was the judge's hot hurry that she lit out of court like her ass was on fire?
“It’s not a lack of understanding “- I agree. The jury THOUGHT they understood when Bev said not to fill in the form until they had a reached a verdict on all counts. The problem is Bev isn’t/wont take that into consideration.