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Top Comments (10)
I thought it was incredibly strange that when she brought the jury back in after they were deadlocked again she just flippantly told them that their service was concluded and declared a mistrial. She completely ignored the standard operating procedure of asking the parties if they would like to be heard before she declares the mistrial. She completely ignored the standard operating procedure of determining if they were deadlocked on all counts or if they had been able to reach a verdict on some of the counts. She just took a very vague note from the jury saying further deliberations would be pointless and instantly declared a mistrial and dismissed the jury. She should be removed from the bench and disbarred if there is any truth to what's been alleged in this disclosures from jurors. There is no excuse for the level of incompetence that would allow that to slip through the cracks because you can't be bothered to do your job. Particularly when it's YOU that did such a bang up job making the jury instructions and the verdict forms as confusing as humanly possible.
I still don’t understand why the Read judge didn’t request those jurors to complete the verdict slips hence to show proof of their decisions, for the sake of the record?
Someone ran the video of the judge’s verbal instructions back and clipped the relevant part on twitter. She specifically told them “after the final vote of the jury, the foreperson should check the appropriate boxes as to each charge” which they seem to have taken to mean don’t fill them out until they had reached unanimous votes on ALL of the charges
Like in the Murdock case, bring the jurors back for an official hearing (excluding the McCabes) and poll them individually on each count. Seems like that would clear this up quickly.
I think this should be seen in the light of what the judge said before: " This is how it's done in Massachusetts " and then doing what she wants to do despite serious protestations. This has been going on since pretrial motions. Go look back how dismissive she has been to especially Mr. Jackson. I have thought many times that if this is how the judge treats outside lawyers, I can now understand how Karen was treated as an outsider.
I was a foreperson on a jury a couple years ago. Three counts, unanimous on two, hung on one. I communicated that to the judge and when the clerk read the verdicts, she read out all the forms for each count. It boggles my mind how this happened. So curious as to what Judge Bev said to the jury afterward and if anyone tried to make that clarification when she spoke to them. Poor Karen. I know Action Jackson is HOT right now.
To me this sits squarely on the judges shoulders as the conductor of the trial and make the trial and law as easy for the jurors as can be given the content. Bev was so sweet to witnesses and jurors but to nearly no one else could she hide her frustration and contempt. Bev screwed up.
This investigation and court case was the worst I have ever experienced as a trial watcher for decades. The DA, the DA witnesses, the investigators, the judge, the verdict forms and the jury instructions. All dismal subpar examples of failures.
When South Carolina gave us the Murdaugh case for fuckery, Massachussets reacted with "hold my White Claw" 😂
The only thing I can think of is that they didn't want to fill the forms in until the very end. Not realising that when they went back into the courtroom they'd be instantly dismissed. That's if it wasn't just a simple case of them thinking they needed to fill in all or none of the forms. Not realising that it's charge by charge
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Top Comments (10)
I thought it was incredibly strange that when she brought the jury back in after they were deadlocked again she just flippantly told them that their service was concluded and declared a mistrial. She completely ignored the standard operating procedure of asking the parties if they would like to be heard before she declares the mistrial. She completely ignored the standard operating procedure of determining if they were deadlocked on all counts or if they had been able to reach a verdict on some of the counts. She just took a very vague note from the jury saying further deliberations would be pointless and instantly declared a mistrial and dismissed the jury. She should be removed from the bench and disbarred if there is any truth to what's been alleged in this disclosures from jurors. There is no excuse for the level of incompetence that would allow that to slip through the cracks because you can't be bothered to do your job. Particularly when it's YOU that did such a bang up job making the jury instructions and the verdict forms as confusing as humanly possible.
I still don’t understand why the Read judge didn’t request those jurors to complete the verdict slips hence to show proof of their decisions, for the sake of the record?
Someone ran the video of the judge’s verbal instructions back and clipped the relevant part on twitter. She specifically told them “after the final vote of the jury, the foreperson should check the appropriate boxes as to each charge” which they seem to have taken to mean don’t fill them out until they had reached unanimous votes on ALL of the charges
Like in the Murdock case, bring the jurors back for an official hearing (excluding the McCabes) and poll them individually on each count. Seems like that would clear this up quickly.
I think this should be seen in the light of what the judge said before: " This is how it's done in Massachusetts " and then doing what she wants to do despite serious protestations. This has been going on since pretrial motions. Go look back how dismissive she has been to especially Mr. Jackson. I have thought many times that if this is how the judge treats outside lawyers, I can now understand how Karen was treated as an outsider.
I was a foreperson on a jury a couple years ago. Three counts, unanimous on two, hung on one. I communicated that to the judge and when the clerk read the verdicts, she read out all the forms for each count. It boggles my mind how this happened. So curious as to what Judge Bev said to the jury afterward and if anyone tried to make that clarification when she spoke to them. Poor Karen. I know Action Jackson is HOT right now.
To me this sits squarely on the judges shoulders as the conductor of the trial and make the trial and law as easy for the jurors as can be given the content. Bev was so sweet to witnesses and jurors but to nearly no one else could she hide her frustration and contempt. Bev screwed up.
This investigation and court case was the worst I have ever experienced as a trial watcher for decades. The DA, the DA witnesses, the investigators, the judge, the verdict forms and the jury instructions. All dismal subpar examples of failures.
When South Carolina gave us the Murdaugh case for fuckery, Massachussets reacted with "hold my White Claw" 😂
The only thing I can think of is that they didn't want to fill the forms in until the very end. Not realising that when they went back into the courtroom they'd be instantly dismissed. That's if it wasn't just a simple case of them thinking they needed to fill in all or none of the forms. Not realising that it's charge by charge