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What the Ancient Greeks Knew About Antarctica

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This is a clip from the Before Skool Podcast with Bernie Taylor. Full episode here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvN0Yme6Sto&t=2596s Claudius Ptolemy (Ancient Greek: Πτολεμαῖος, Ptolemaios; Latin: Claudius Ptolemaeus; c. 100 – 160s/170s AD),better known mononymously as Ptolemy, was a Greco-Roman mathematician, astronomer, astrologer, geographer, and music theorist who wrote about a dozen scientific treatises, three of which were important to later Byzantine, Islamic, and Western European science. The first was his astronomical treatise now known as the Almagest, originally entitled Mathēmatikḗ Syntaxis (Μαθηματικὴ Σύνταξις, 'Mathematical Treatise'). The second is the Geography, which is a thorough discussion on maps and the geographic knowledge of the Greco-Roman world. The third is the astrological treatise in which he attempted to adapt horoscopic astrology to the Aristotelian natural philosophy of his day. This is sometimes known as the Apotelesmatika (Αποτελεσματικά, 'On the Effects') but more commonly known as the Tetrábiblos (from the Koine Greek meaning 'four books'; Latin: Quadripartitum). The Catholic Church promoted his work, which included the only mathematically sound geocentric model of the Solar System. Unlike that of most Greek mathematicians, Ptolemy's writings (foremost the Almagest) were copied or evaluated in late antiquity and into the Middle Ages. However, it is likely that only a few truly mastered the mathematics necessary to understand his works, as evidenced particularly by the many abridged and watered-down introductions to Ptolemy's astronomy that were popular among the Arabs and Byzantines. His work on epicycles is now seen as a very complex theoretical model built in order to explain a false tenet based on faith.

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@pzz6230 2026-05-24

Please study the Piri map of Antarctica. Piri drew his map from the maps he found in the garbage at the palace in Constantinople. These were Byzantine maps, and the Byzantines were Greek.

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@willtherealgeorgemichael 2026-05-24

The Greeks knew that there was cold in Antartica. They had ships that traveled the world. They were the maritime superpower of that time.

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@nicolasntovas5667 2026-05-25

Long before Claudius Ptolemy Minoans played a key role in a global commercial network including the Americas (mostly metals) Plutarch gives us a detail description of how to get to the continent and how long the journey lasted

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@Antonios.J.Photiades 2026-05-26

I'm afraid that the honorable collocutors are missing a few points: 1) Ptolemy's geography has been kept in two practically full (intact) Greek manuscripts that stem from a reproduction ordered by a Christian Roman (Byzantine) erudite and scholarly monk of the 13th century, Maximus Planoudes, who was also a translator from Latin to Greek, having learnt Latin by the Genoese. 2) Maximus wrote a letter to the Patriarch of Alexandria (I'm not sure now, I believe it was some Meletios at the time) asking him if he (the Patriarch of Alexandria) could find a manuscript (a book, a biblos, a codex) containing Ptolemy's Geography. And the most impressive and unbelievable fact is that the Patriarch of Alexandria did in fact find within his jurisdiction a full copy of Ptolemy's Geography amidst the 13th century!!! 2a) [It is interesting to notice the subjective conviction of Maximus that it is reasonable to find such a copy in Alexandria, given Ptolemy lived and wrote there a thousand years ago, when we nowadays go by the narrative of total obliteration of Greek texts as a result of the incendie/fire that actually destroyed the Library of Alexandria. Well, in fact there was a copy in Alexandria!!!] All of the aforementioned is written in the Colophon of the Constantinopolitan produced copies, under Maximus Planudes' orders, by Maximus himself, as accounting the story of how he got this valuable manuscript sent to him by his Holiness, the Patriarch of Alexandria, followed by a few curses to anyone who would dare appropriate - steal such a valuable book. 2b) In the (original Greek) text of the book there is a mention about what lies below the very hot meridian regions, a vague description, but nonetheless it states that towards the opposite proximity (of arctica) there is the KATEPSUGMENON which literally translates into refrigerated. 3) Anti, a common Greek preposition used in numerous Greek words is an equivalent of latin contra. Counter as applied in contemporary English. It is widely applied in Geometrical terminology. Antipode. And in other areas: Punctus, contrapunctus (counterpoint) is stixis - antistixis in Greek. Thesis - Antithesis. It can also be applied in toponyms, areas, very small areas, valleys or islands, twin islands where the larger bears the proper name (Mēlos, Paros) and the smaller one aside is called anti-Mēlos, anti-Paros. Another case is regarding opposite shores. Antarktikē does not mean away from the bears. "We" (Greeks of 3rd century BC to 3rd AD) damn know, that there is a place which -for whichever reason- has been called Arktikē (yes, due to bears, or the direction of the Stella Polaris-polikos Astēr, in the Ursa Minor - Mikra Arktos) for ages. Well, simply, if now we deem that there is a place symmetrically juxtaposed (in relation to an axe, a pivot) at the other end, it is quite reasonable (it is the antipode - the counterfoot) that we may label it as Antarktikē. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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@epimetheus9053 2026-05-22

Very well and informative for the uninitiated, when you actually study Greek literature, you will see that they knew about the americas, about Indonesia and Polynesia. Antarctis means literally: OPPOSITE TO THE BEARS , nothing more nothing less

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@petewright8302 2026-05-19

U r a beautiful soul and thank you for sharing 🤗 I believe your like me, listening /learning 💞

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@alexandroscomingaftermonke596 2026-05-28

Greek explorer Pytheas from Massalia (Marseille) in 4th century BC was the first to mention Arctic (so if there is Arctic there is also Ant-arctic). Note: Arctos in Ancient Greek means= the Bear

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@dukewattagis6132 2026-05-27

just read Plato : "...for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the Pillars of Heracles,' there lay an island which was Greater (in Greek means Higher!) than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean."In this text, Plato describes Atlantis as a stepping stone. Travelers could cross from Atlantis to "the other islands" and from there to the "whole of the opposite continent which surrounds what can truly be called the ocean."

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@ThomasJelfJr 2026-05-25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YDN9AnvAh4&t=22s

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@CopperRosesofRevelation 2026-05-19

Ptolemy used Mul.Apin. This is well known.

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