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Top Comments (10)
The problem with ChatGPT is that 99% of it's compute goes into not saying the N word
Moon: Deepseek is bad. Anyway this AI that sponsored me is beter.
It's not China's fault that the stock market dropped after the release of DeepSeek. The real issue is that many US corporations have invested excessively in artificial intelligence without achieving significant results. As a result, the stocks of several US companies are overvalued, lacking genuine improvements to justify their prices. Additionally, Western regulators have imposed strict controls on the AI industry for several years, hindering its development, as has occurred with the social media sector.
It was about shorting the tech stocks. Period.
Honestly, Moon could've done better with this one, the AI sponsor doesn't help his credibility either. A bit more unbiased research, and he could've painted a better picture that reflects the AI race. I know people in the west won't accept it but the release of Deepseek is arguably the best thing that's happened to the industry, an open source AI produced by reinforcement learning that's on the same level or even better than OpenAI's chatgpt O1 model. Ironicaly Silicon Valley will benefit immensely from this coz it's open-sourced, so they can literally see process of how the R1 model "thinks", and perhaps apply the lessons in their own models. It's true, the cost of the R1 model is up for debate, but still even if the real cost is 10X or 20X the 6 million dollar cost, it's still way more cheaper than all the American AIs. It's crazy to think that China is giving the world a real open AI, so developers across the world can alter the model for their own use, and it's on the par with the best Chatgpt model. Most importantly, the entire world can it for free, in contrast to OpenAI's O1 costing hundreds of dollars. Taking into account, the geopolitical political tension between the 2 superpowers, data privacy concern is a real issue. Another beauty of the Deepseek R1 model is that you can run it locally, which may keep all your data on your system. I'm glad Deepseek took the giant leap forward to wake up Big Tech. Google, Microsoft, OpenAI, Apple, all these companies' main focus is gatekeeping the AI industry, racing against each other for a monopoly grip on this game changing technology, crushing all start-ups that could challenge them.
Kai-Fu Lee has been working on AI development in China for over 10 years. He worked for Apple and Google respectively before starting his own AI consulting business. The emergence of DeepSeek shouldn’t have been a surprise to anyone, if you know what China has been doing in the last 20 years.
At the end of the day more competition like this means better products and cheaper prices for customers. I’m all for it
I couldn't care less about Sam and his crying over his ChatGPT data being stolen. He stole them from everyone else and monetizing it, he reaped what he sow tbh. Open-source is good, it always support open competition
I went to the Chinese restaurant and asked what they are cooking today: They said they just cooked OpenAI.
And another thing, deepseek said they used less hardware than OpenAI, not believed, a nerd in the US said it believes they have more GPU's without evidence, instantly believed. Americans just can't stand the fact that they aren't at the helm of everything tech.
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Top Comments (10)
The problem with ChatGPT is that 99% of it's compute goes into not saying the N word
Moon: Deepseek is bad. Anyway this AI that sponsored me is beter.
It's not China's fault that the stock market dropped after the release of DeepSeek. The real issue is that many US corporations have invested excessively in artificial intelligence without achieving significant results. As a result, the stocks of several US companies are overvalued, lacking genuine improvements to justify their prices. Additionally, Western regulators have imposed strict controls on the AI industry for several years, hindering its development, as has occurred with the social media sector.
It was about shorting the tech stocks. Period.
Honestly, Moon could've done better with this one, the AI sponsor doesn't help his credibility either. A bit more unbiased research, and he could've painted a better picture that reflects the AI race. I know people in the west won't accept it but the release of Deepseek is arguably the best thing that's happened to the industry, an open source AI produced by reinforcement learning that's on the same level or even better than OpenAI's chatgpt O1 model. Ironicaly Silicon Valley will benefit immensely from this coz it's open-sourced, so they can literally see process of how the R1 model "thinks", and perhaps apply the lessons in their own models. It's true, the cost of the R1 model is up for debate, but still even if the real cost is 10X or 20X the 6 million dollar cost, it's still way more cheaper than all the American AIs. It's crazy to think that China is giving the world a real open AI, so developers across the world can alter the model for their own use, and it's on the par with the best Chatgpt model. Most importantly, the entire world can it for free, in contrast to OpenAI's O1 costing hundreds of dollars. Taking into account, the geopolitical political tension between the 2 superpowers, data privacy concern is a real issue. Another beauty of the Deepseek R1 model is that you can run it locally, which may keep all your data on your system. I'm glad Deepseek took the giant leap forward to wake up Big Tech. Google, Microsoft, OpenAI, Apple, all these companies' main focus is gatekeeping the AI industry, racing against each other for a monopoly grip on this game changing technology, crushing all start-ups that could challenge them.
Kai-Fu Lee has been working on AI development in China for over 10 years. He worked for Apple and Google respectively before starting his own AI consulting business. The emergence of DeepSeek shouldn’t have been a surprise to anyone, if you know what China has been doing in the last 20 years.
At the end of the day more competition like this means better products and cheaper prices for customers. I’m all for it
I couldn't care less about Sam and his crying over his ChatGPT data being stolen. He stole them from everyone else and monetizing it, he reaped what he sow tbh. Open-source is good, it always support open competition
I went to the Chinese restaurant and asked what they are cooking today: They said they just cooked OpenAI.
And another thing, deepseek said they used less hardware than OpenAI, not believed, a nerd in the US said it believes they have more GPU's without evidence, instantly believed. Americans just can't stand the fact that they aren't at the helm of everything tech.