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Dirty Truth About The U.S. Mint & The Coin We Couldn't Make | Philip Diehl #455 | The Way I Heard It

2025-10-24 Entertainment
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Mike Rowe
Mike Rowe
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Former US Mint Director Philip Diehl on Gold, Culture, and US Coinage

Discover the hidden responsibilities of the US Mint, why gold remains eternally valuable, and the cultural forces shaping American work ethic and currency design.

Short Summary

  • The US Mint handles circulating currency, bullion sales, and secures Fort Knox, demonstrating a much broader operational scope than commonly understood.
  • Gold maintains its status as a reliable store of value globally due to unique, non-tarnishing qualities and rarity across all cultures.
  • Diehl successfully drove the US Mint 40 years forward in technology and culture over five years, emphasizing radical transparency and customer focus.
  • Fundamental principles of US commerce, such as adopting decimal currency, trace directly back to Thomas Jefferson's vision for accessible finance.
  • Understanding why coinage cannot always be made domestically involves complex legal definitions of "coin" versus "medal" and Congressional involvement.

This discussion reconstructs a fascinating conversation with Philip Diehl, former Director of the US Mint, covering his unexpected career path—from Texas pipeline construction to leading a critical economic agency—and his insights on currency history, trust, and the dignity of work in the age of AI.

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Couple years ago in Switzerland, in a little town called Bad Ragaz, nestled in the snowy Canton of St. Gallen, I was having a sensible bourbon in the hotel bar and chatting with a former pipe bender and director of the US Mint, when I was suddenly overcome with a profound sense of regret. I realized, about ten minutes into our chat, that I hadn’t clipped a portable microphone onto the lapel of this gentleman’s tasteful blazer and secured his permission to record our conversation for posterity. Pity. It was one of the more interesting conversations I’d ever had in a hotel bar. This happens to me a lot. I meet interesting people, strike up a conversation that turns out to be fascinating, and quickly regret that I’m not recording it. Happily, I have this podcast, which allows me to invite the people I meet in various watering holes to sit down for a more deliberate chat, and even more happily, many of those people agree to do so. This week, one of those people happens to be Philip Diehl, the former pipe bender I met in Bad Ragaz, who also happens to have been the 35th director of The US Mint, and the current President of US Money Reserve. I invited Philip onto the podcast in part, to recreate the conversation we had that evening in Switzerland – a wide-ranging chat that revealed his good humor, vast experience, and deep understanding of a dozen different topics. And I’m pleased to say that today - eighteen months later (and without the sensible bourbon) - Philip is no less fascinating than he was the evening we met. But I also invited Philip on to shed some light on a minor dustup that occurred two months ago, when I offered a very limited quantity of solid silver coins to the general public, to raise money for the mikeroweWORKS Foundation. As some of you may recall, those silver beautiful silver coins honoring the American worker, sold out immediately, and raised over $125K for work ethic scholarships. However, they were designed in Lichtenstein and minted in Germany, which prompted a lot of people who support my commitment to making things in America, to chastise me for failing to get these beautiful coins minted the United States. I explained to my critics why it was impossible to do so, but alas, my explanations were weighed, measured, and found wanting. Here then, is a far better explanation from the 35th Director of the US Mint, which I believe my detractors will find undeniably persuasive. Along with a conversation about pipe bending, and a great many other things of national importance, which I guarantee you’re absolutely going to love. #podcast #money #history A special Thanks To: Knobel Tennessee Whiskey, try it now: https://bit.ly/KnobelSpiritsxTWIHI If you like me, and even if you don't, subscribe to my channels and follow me. Much obliged. https://www.youtube.com/@therealmikerowe https://www.youtube.com/@therealmikeroweshorts https://www.youtube.com/@PYSKshow http://instagram.com/mikerowe http://facebook.com/TheRealMikeRowe https://twitter.com/mikeroweworks 00:00 What does the U.S. Mint do? 06:46 How we met 07:58 Why gold is so valued 15:53 How Philip became Philip 26:19 For the love of work 34:50 How Philip's oldest brother transformed him 39:30 His father flew the hump 44:49 Presenting the Valor and Victory coins 48:20 The theory of coinage 59:11 Why we created the Trades of America coin ‍ 01:05:32 Maintaining dignity with AI 01:07:19 Rapidly transforming the U.S. Mint 01:16:31 Creating the Sacagawea and state coins 01:22:09 Why the Susan B. Anthony coin failed 01:26:35 Why is U.S. money boring? 01:34:50 Philip's #1 piece of advice 01:37:21 Why our coin could not be made in the U.S.

Top Comments (10)

@pamartin 2025-10-25

I would never expect AI to repair my roof, fix my car, service my furnace, rebuild my chainsaws carburetor, etc... Trades matter!!!

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@richardoleson7934 2025-10-25

What an unexpected pleasure this conversation was. Mike, you never cease to amaze me and always deliver the best that your guests have to give us.

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@quietsolopursuits1414 2025-10-25

You did it to me again Mike! I never thought that I'd find this topic interesting, but it's one the best that I've watched. Thank you for expanding my horizons.

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@NW_FL_WoodUnbound 2025-10-24

Mike's episodes are reaching Jacko and Rogan lengths and I love it.

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@sestackinandcollectin 2025-10-25

The best thing about precious metals is, it can't be printed into obliteration..

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@mcchuggernaut9378 2025-10-29

People who devalue trades are all high and mighty until their toilet backs up.

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@khcaver 2025-10-26

I’m a lifelong coin collector. I loved this conversation. That would’ve been my dream job.

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@MrJdubbya36 2025-10-25

I've been a coin collector and silver collector for years. I was excited to see your Trades coin come out. I ordered one and waited with palpable anticipation for it to arrive. But...I had somehow, in my haste to check out to make sure I actually got one, typed in an old address and they dutifully shipped it there. Back and forth with both UPS and US Money Reserve folks and it seems to have disappeared into the ether somehow. Money Metals took very good care of me, even though most of it was MY fault, and send me another coin (I picked the Pearl Harbor coin from their WW-2 series out of the ones they offered) and I couldn't be happier. But your coins are sold out and I can't get one and that makes me so sad. They did say they would still make the requisite donation to your foundation though so even better on US Money Reserve.

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@JANETK.POLUDNIAK 2025-10-25

Love Mike's sense of humor. It helps get through some things if we find the humor. This guest is a great storyteller. He could fill a dozen books that would be great history books. I watched thus one twice. EXCELLENT!

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@michaelmeehan9083 2025-10-25

I left the semiconductor industry and went into HVAC because you can't offshore getting your air conditioner or furnace fixed to Taiwan or China...

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