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Applebaum: The Free World Has No Leader | The Bulwark Podcast

2025-10-16 News & Politics
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Assessing the Erosion of American Democracy and Global Influence

Understand how recent domestic policy shifts directly dismantle the U.S.'s role as a democratic beacon and what this means for global stability and domestic rights. Readers will see specific administrative actions analyzed alongside the historical concept of "democratic faith" that once unified the nation.

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  • Identify specific administrative actions (USAID cuts, refugee policy overhaul) causing immediate international damage.
  • Analyze the shift from "rule of law" to "rule by law" domestically, citing IRS targeting and ICE practices as evidence of creeping authoritarianism.
  • Recognize that abandoning the "democratic faith" undermines the core national identity that once unified a diverse nation.

This conversation with Anne Applebaum dissects how current domestic policy actions—from foreign aid cuts to aggressive domestic enforcement—damage the U.S. image. The discussion explains why abandoning the historical commitment to democracy damages America's standing abroad and erodes domestic unity.

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The U.S. has been a model for other aspiring democracies since 1776. At the same time, the idea of America as the leader of the democratic world has also had a unifying effect at home. It's what has kept this diverse country of many faiths and ethnicities together, and it has been our national identity. But with Trump actively undermining those ideals, what will we be unified around? Plus, the potential new whites-favored refugee policy, Trump's psychological comfort to the Russian war effort, Hegseth got himself a state media press room at the Pentagon, JD is totally cool with lots of Nazi talk—and could the administration be trying to start a war in Venezuela so it can expand its militaristic crackdown on the streets here? Anne Applebaum joins Tim Miller. show notes Anne's new piece, "The Beacon of Democracy Goes Dark" https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/11/america-democracy-autocracy/684335/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB3xr12s8wvgFIcO5LiiZQ3w&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share Anne on the Nobel Peace Prize winner https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/10/maria-machado-nobel-peace-prize/684510/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB9NNR6bVqPOK-DlOUyyGFDs&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share "Ukraine’s Plan to Starve the Russian War Machine," by Anne https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/09/ukraines-strategy-to-win-the-war/684356/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfB54JPRgt4XU1FvyxV3GHdiw&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share Ian McEwan's "What We Know" — second recommendation this week! https://bookshop.org/p/books/what-we-can-know-a-novel-ian-mcewan/8905bce470e366f1 Get started free, plus get 20% off of your first 6 months at https://Quo.com/THEBULWARK F*%k your khakis and get The Perfect Jean 15% off with the code BULWARK15 at https://theperfectjean.nyc/BULWARK15 #theperfectjeanpod Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join

Top Comments (10)

@oranparker 2025-10-16

I love it when you have Anne on your show. I first discovered her through the Bulwark and have since read several of her books. Anne knows what's going on, and she has been sharply and intelligently banging the drum for a while. When Anne speaks, listen up.

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@meladeybras659 2025-10-16

I am an American citizen who lives in New Zealand. Trust me, we get all the news you do in America. I am not planning on visiting family and friends in America until this corrupt government is long gone.

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@jeannereber3062 2025-10-16

Anne is one of my favorite Bulwark guests. Dispassionate, analytical & clear-eyed about US standing in international community & how other countries have slipped into & extricated themselves out of authoritarianism.

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@John-j8i2g 2025-10-16

Thanks for having Ann Applebaum on! Such an important voice for our time.

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@Lzappa 2025-10-16

Tim Miller and Anne Applebaum are absolutely right to connect these decisions to the collapse of moral leadership. Cuts to USAID are not just numbers on a spreadsheet; they translate into children dying from starvation, preventable disease, and displacement. What can you possibly say to a mother or father whose child died because that aid never arrived? There are no words that make that loss acceptable. What is frightening is that this same disregard is spreading at home. The proposed cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, and rural healthcare follow the same logic, where human lives are reduced to cost savings. People will die quietly in small towns, nursing homes, and emergency rooms that never open. Whether it is indifference, ideological blindness, or what Hannah Arendt called the banality of evil, the pattern is the same: powerful people making decisions that destroy lives while pretending it is just policy. The free world truly feels leaderless when compassion and responsibility are dismissed as weaknesses instead of being recognized as the foundation of democracy.

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@giesingjoe 2025-10-16

That money for USAID had been appropriated by Congress, had it not? Cutting it was illegal. So much for the rule of law in the US.

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@LuxMachaera 2025-10-17

The richest man in the planet is a mass murderer due to the USAID cuts.

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@morganland47 2025-10-17

After eliminating USAID aide, Trump moved on to politicking for a Nobel Peace Prize, while millions of people who were depending on USAID were dying.

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@marshatownsend3907 2025-10-16

Making my no kings poster while listening. Rooting for democracy. Anne is such a thoughtful, knowledgeable voice!

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@FR2024-er8ku 2025-10-19

Great interviews this week. Heather Cox Richardson and now Anne Appelbaum 🎉

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