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John Mearsheimer vs. Matt Duss: A Debate on Trump-Putin Summit, Ukraine, Russia & Paths to Peace

2025-08-15 News & Politics
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Support our work: https://democracynow.org/donate/sm-desc-yt As U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin meet in Alaska for a high-stakes summit to discuss a possible ceasefire in Ukraine, we host a debate between two foreign policy thinkers about the war, its causes and how it could be brought to a conclusion. John Mearsheimer is an international relations theorist at the University of Chicago, known for his realist perspective. He has long argued that Western policies are the main cause of the Ukraine crisis. "There's overwhelming evidence that it was NATO expansion into Ukraine that drove this train," says Mearsheimer. Matt Duss is executive vice president at the Center for International Policy and the former foreign policy adviser to Senator Bernie Sanders. He says that despite Western missteps, Russia is ultimately the main cause of the current war, which Putin started in 2022 with a full-scale invasion of Ukraine. "Putin has made clear that he has a pretty grandiose historical conception of what he sees as a kind of renewed Russian empire," he says. Both Mearsheimer and Duss say Ukraine's war effort is flagging and that the best way out is to "make the best peace they can," even if it means conceding territory to Russia. 0:00 Intro 2:02 Trump-Putin summit 7:19 What caused the war? 14:56 What Ukrainians want 19:42 How does it end? Democracy Now! is an independent global news hour that airs on over 1,500 TV and radio stations Monday through Friday. Watch our livestream at democracynow.org Mondays to Fridays 8-9 a.m. ET. Subscribe to our Daily Email Digest: https://democracynow.org/subscribe

Top Comments (10)

@htidye 2025-08-15

Mearshimer vs Duss is like Godzilla vs Bambi.

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@nico-mus1ca 2025-08-15

I know it's because of broadcast constraints, but still, it's so annoying having the interviews always cut short with the guest having to uncomfortably summarize complex responses in 15 seconds

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@LWRAnn 2025-08-15

Finally, some truth breaks thru on Ukraine on Democracy Now. It’s been a long time coming.

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@manofsan 2025-08-15

8:44 - "law or norms" - does Matt Druss remember how Serbia was carved up by forceful intervention to create Kosovo? Perhaps Matt Druss also fails to remember how the US illegally invaded Iraq, first falsely alleging it was behind 9/11, then later falsely claiming it was developing nuclear weapons, and then finally later claiming "WMD" as their newly minted pretext.

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@alexpanter9339 2025-08-15

no one mentioned minsk 1 and minsk 2 agreements?

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@DesertFox1978MJ-rd3tc 2025-08-15

the reason why this debate is not 4 hours instead of 20 minutes is because Matt Duss is repeating Victoria Nolan's position 3 years into this mess.

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@johnbanach3875 2025-08-15

Thank you for allowing a rational discussion today, instead of subjecting us to the crazed M. Gessen.

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@Tehui1974 2025-08-17

I'm glad that they allowed both views about the causes of the war to be aired in the same show.

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@kcsechemistrylessons1975 2025-08-16

Great job Prof

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@FabianoL.deMenezes 2025-08-16

Congrats for the debate ❤

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