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The Neuroscience of Depression with Neil deGrasse Tyson & Heather Berlin

2024-02-23 Science & Technology
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What is depression? Neil deGrasse Tyson and co-hosts Chuck Nice and Gary O’Reilly break down the neuroscience behind major depression, its treatments, and the factors that contribute to this pervasive condition with neuroscientist Heather Berlin, PhD. Is there any adaptive reason behind depression? What is the difference between depression and just being sad? Learn about how people get diagnosed with depression or dysthymia. We discuss the history of psychological disorders and how the serotonin pathway contributes to depression. Find out how SSRIs work and why we don’t just take Serotonin pills. Chuck shares his experience with depression and what it is like to fake being happy when you are not. We break down the dopaminergic system and how there is now evidence that glutamate is involved in depression. Discover different treatments like ECT and transcranial magnetic stimulation. We discuss different environmental triggers, or “stressors,” for depression. Is seasonal depression real? We explore people’s ability to tolerate stressors, exposure therapy, and the stress diathesis model. How do hormones affect depression? We discuss postpartum depression and menopause. We explore if there is an adaptive reason behind depression and how depressive signaling works in our society now. Is it possible that features that used to be adaptive are now maladaptive in our current environment? Could we someday have a pill to cure all mental illness? Thanks to our Patrons Geoff Malone, Neander Rowlett, Brial Teel, Baran Blaser, Maxwell Miller, Doug Litwin, and Edward Bally for supporting us this week. NOTE: StarTalk+ Patrons can listen to this entire episode commercial-free. Check out our second channel, @StarTalkPlus Get the NEW StarTalk book, 'To Infinity and Beyond: A Journey of Cosmic Discovery' on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3PL0NFn Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/startalkradio FOLLOW or SUBSCRIBE to StarTalk: Twitter: http://twitter.com/startalkradio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StarTalk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startalk About StarTalk: Science meets pop culture on StarTalk! Astrophysicist & Hayden Planetarium director Neil deGrasse Tyson, his comic co-hosts, guest celebrities & scientists discuss astronomy, physics, and everything else about life in the universe. Keep Looking Up! #StarTalk #neildegrassetyson 00:00 - Introduction 2:40 - What is Depression? 6:55 - Anxiety and depression together 8:00 - The History of Mental Illness 10:08 - Treating Depression & The Serotonin Hypothesis 13:10 - Pharmaceutical Intervention & SSRIs 14:43 - Chuck’s Experience with Depression 16:46 - Dopamine Systems & Alternative Treatments 18:29 - Triggers & Seasonal Affective Disorder 22:48 - Social-Cultural Causes 27:43 - The Stigma 31:26 - Postpartum Depression 34:49 - Adaptive Signaling & Our Society 39:00 - Could There One Day Be an A Cure?

Top Comments (10)

@thoso1973 2024-02-23

The challenge with describing depression to someone who never experienced it themselves, is similar to the challenge of describing sounds to someone who was born deaf.

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@RyanHess-n9b 2024-02-23

I have major depressive disorder and extreme anxiety, I got so bad that I completely stopped doing everything I liked, barely drank, didn't eat, got dangerously underweight shaked nearly uncontrollably and wouldn't speak and I just waited to die, got involuntarily committed and got put on medication and I can't believe this is how people are normally supposed to feel. It was always like I was lost in the dark. It's important to get help, I almost didn't make it.

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@StarTalk 2024-02-23

Do you experience seasonal depression in the winter months? 🌧

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@chrisjelley6899 2024-02-24

Timely. After 50 + years of suffering, finally reached out for help. Thanks.

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@JD987abc 2024-02-25

First i want to applaud Chuck for his courage in sharing his personal situation. Very helpful to the rest of us who are guarded against social criticism for depression and anxiety. This episode of star talk is incredibly helpful and informative. Far more practical and relevant to the masses than another show on black holes. Great job to NDT and the doctor.

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@mikaeljacobsson1437 2024-02-23

I broke up with the neurotypical world and it did wonders for my mental health.

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@KushyKitty666 2024-02-25

It boggles my mind to know that there are people in this world who don't know what it's like to have chronic depression.

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@Lenore4Evermore 2024-03-13

It took me 30 years to finally get the real diagnosis and medication. I suffer from Bipolar 1 and the mania almost took me out over a 12 year period. Finding the right medication has changed my life for the better . I am thankful I am finally going to live the rest of my life in a more calm and collective way. The chronic mania literally made me almost give up on a half normal life. I am no longer shaking .❤

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@SuperiorDave 2024-02-23

Crap, 15 people beat me to the comments. O'well. I'm here for Chuck's emotional support.

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@ericcheatham8075 2025-04-15

My job is super stressful and at the same time my wife left me and my son and I went into depression and isolation. I stopped talking to friends and doing things that were fun. After my divorce, my therapist taught me to turn the page. It's a new chapter in my life and now I'm doing a lot better and it really helped having someone to talk to show me that it's life after divorce

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