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Trump Used Them—and They Know It (w/ David Pakman)

2026-04-25 News & Politics
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Tim Miller joins David Pakman for a wide-ranging conversation on Trump’s unraveling, the “MAGA betrayal” moment among anti-war influencers, and what comes next for the right. They discuss why some of Trump’s loudest supporters feel misled, who actually drives conservative media, and how Never Trump has evolved into something broader. Plus: how to talk to voters who are starting to reconsider—and what a post-Trump GOP might look like. Tickets for our Bulwark Live shows in San Diego and Los Angeles in May: https://thebulwark.com/events Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join

Top Comments (10)

@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121 2026-04-25

Yeah, I'm not buying that. They voted for him after January 6th. They'll make up whatever stupid excuse they need to in order to do it again, too

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@dirtnap9641 2026-04-25

Nope. Done with anyone who voted for or supported Trump after Jan 6th. fuckem

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@one_cpa 2026-04-25

15 years ago I listened to Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and Mark Levin because I was entrenched in my beliefs without evaluating their merits. Now I listen to Tim Miller, who knows how to frame ideas and arguments at their core, so that he presents them to not only those who agree with him on the issues, but to people who hold ideas as a part of their identity. I think he shows people in political tribalism that the ideas in that make up their identity can be changed and identity protective cognition can be broken down. Keep up the great work!

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@laurabustos6560 2026-04-25

David Pakman!! I feel like I've been waiting 83 years to see you on the Bulwark feed. Great discussion guys, thanks!

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@lady-liberty3 2026-04-25

Love seeing you together- united we stand- ✌️♥️

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@Lovedogs-q8r 2026-04-25

This Canadian 🇨🇦 loves The Bulwark!!! Everyone is awesome but Tim Miller is my favourite 🙌🙌❤️

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@delta5297 2026-04-25

Trump in his first term supported Israel's annexation of Palestinian territory and he tore up the Iran nuclear deal. These acts burned bridges, raised tensions, and led to a spiral towards the war we're seeing today. That's how you know that Donald Trump is not a "peace president".

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@ZBeets720 2026-04-25

My FIL is still a Trumper. I get into with him every single time I see him. He starts it. I don’t back down. Then I change the subject. It’s really hard.

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@KimGorman-k2t 2026-04-25

I believe that every candidate should be given the exact same amount of money to run their campaign and the people focus on their policies, their previous accomplishments and vision for the country etc…

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@pauladare3632 2026-04-25

I like you Tim. You speak your mind. I've been following you since you left the WH. You were 1 of the 1st batch to leave the Republicans. God that seems so long ago. It's taken so long for these people to open they're eyes. Take care and keep up the good work!

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