1970. Black TV Explores The Relationship Between Black Men & Women
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Top Comments (10)
Its insane these issues have not changed at all since then. Same argument. Same points being made. Same rift
People were so much more well spoken back then
The thing is, men always thinking they were superior to women was always a culture wide issue. No matter where you go on earth, there was always the societal roles of men owning and having their wives and even children as property When it comes to countries like America, and with how blatant and ingrained the racial divide was, it is easy to see how black men and women faced racism, but black men, and minority men in general, are still unfamiliar with the concept of misogyny within these minority communities. Even when there’s an “othered” group in society, the “others” can still form some form of discrimination against one another whether we know it or not, it’s just how humans operate To say that women are pulling men down, or pushing them back, when historically they were never in a position to have an edge over men in the first place, especially during the 70’s when they still needed husbands permission to open a bank account, highlights the riff women and men continue to have. With men either not seeing or purposely not understanding the challenges face, and minority men do this by believing that minority women only face the challenge of racism and also not misogyny. Instead of saying they are unfamiliar with the second form of discrimination women face, they are adamant that it doesn’t exist at all and that minority women are adopting traits of white society that’s already against black men. Meanwhile, these same men want to adopt the culture-wide idea that women are too weak to fend for themselves, so they should have husbands to be taken care of, and therefore husbands property. A woman not having a husband or being on equal footing with her husband is threatening their idea of a weak woman, one they own, of protection. This is further exacerbated by men saying they must “rewire” or teach women how to act a certain way so their lifestyles will be beneficial to a man The reasons we keep having these conversations 50+ years later is because men are not grasping that idea that women do not want to be property, they want to be their own person while being married. Confining women to house and kids may be fine for some, but that shouldn’t be the set standard and norm for every women, and instead of doing away with the idea of owning a wife instead of being an equal companion, minority are chastised by their men for adopting certain traits of white society when the traits of misogyny is much longer and much less color blind Until men realize that women’s rights and existence isn’t something for them to have and control, we will keep having these conversations
So interesting. I was about 10 at this time, so I wasn't very aware of black American's striving to shape what their selves were going to be. We were a military family, moved about every 2 years, and lived among other military families. The military forces were thoroughly integrated and had been for decades. Our friend, neighbors, and peers were white, black, Asian, and al manner of the mix of America. Again, interesting to have a bird's eye view of what some Americans were going through. Thanks!❤
I love these sorts of videos getting an insight into things from right before I was born. Sometimes I agree with what's said, sometimes I disagree but it's always insightful! Things you never see on the news.
Fascinating how useful this discussion is *today*.
I always appreciate seeing historical media with POC. Thank you David and PBS.
Like Morgan Freeman said: "I'm going to stop calling you a white man, and you are going to stop calling me a black man" I wonder if we need to discuss political issues on the level of color of the skin or we just move on as humanity.
🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️.... *sigh*
I have always wondered if white people speak about being white or use the context of their skin color or race how black people do. Sometimes it seems to be the main focus with some people
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Top Comments (10)
Its insane these issues have not changed at all since then. Same argument. Same points being made. Same rift
People were so much more well spoken back then
The thing is, men always thinking they were superior to women was always a culture wide issue. No matter where you go on earth, there was always the societal roles of men owning and having their wives and even children as property When it comes to countries like America, and with how blatant and ingrained the racial divide was, it is easy to see how black men and women faced racism, but black men, and minority men in general, are still unfamiliar with the concept of misogyny within these minority communities. Even when there’s an “othered” group in society, the “others” can still form some form of discrimination against one another whether we know it or not, it’s just how humans operate To say that women are pulling men down, or pushing them back, when historically they were never in a position to have an edge over men in the first place, especially during the 70’s when they still needed husbands permission to open a bank account, highlights the riff women and men continue to have. With men either not seeing or purposely not understanding the challenges face, and minority men do this by believing that minority women only face the challenge of racism and also not misogyny. Instead of saying they are unfamiliar with the second form of discrimination women face, they are adamant that it doesn’t exist at all and that minority women are adopting traits of white society that’s already against black men. Meanwhile, these same men want to adopt the culture-wide idea that women are too weak to fend for themselves, so they should have husbands to be taken care of, and therefore husbands property. A woman not having a husband or being on equal footing with her husband is threatening their idea of a weak woman, one they own, of protection. This is further exacerbated by men saying they must “rewire” or teach women how to act a certain way so their lifestyles will be beneficial to a man The reasons we keep having these conversations 50+ years later is because men are not grasping that idea that women do not want to be property, they want to be their own person while being married. Confining women to house and kids may be fine for some, but that shouldn’t be the set standard and norm for every women, and instead of doing away with the idea of owning a wife instead of being an equal companion, minority are chastised by their men for adopting certain traits of white society when the traits of misogyny is much longer and much less color blind Until men realize that women’s rights and existence isn’t something for them to have and control, we will keep having these conversations
So interesting. I was about 10 at this time, so I wasn't very aware of black American's striving to shape what their selves were going to be. We were a military family, moved about every 2 years, and lived among other military families. The military forces were thoroughly integrated and had been for decades. Our friend, neighbors, and peers were white, black, Asian, and al manner of the mix of America. Again, interesting to have a bird's eye view of what some Americans were going through. Thanks!❤
I love these sorts of videos getting an insight into things from right before I was born. Sometimes I agree with what's said, sometimes I disagree but it's always insightful! Things you never see on the news.
Fascinating how useful this discussion is *today*.
I always appreciate seeing historical media with POC. Thank you David and PBS.
Like Morgan Freeman said: "I'm going to stop calling you a white man, and you are going to stop calling me a black man" I wonder if we need to discuss political issues on the level of color of the skin or we just move on as humanity.
🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️.... *sigh*
I have always wondered if white people speak about being white or use the context of their skin color or race how black people do. Sometimes it seems to be the main focus with some people