Don't Clean Code w/ Creator of HTMX

Twitch https://twitch.tv/ThePrimeagen Discord https://discord.gg/ThePrimeagen ☕ ssh terminal.shop 📘 Carson’s book: https://hypermedia.systems 🧠 Grug Brained Dev: https://grugbrain.dev Timestamps: 0:00 Intro & chaos before the call 1:45 Meet Carson Gross (HTMX creator & professor) 3:29 What is "Coding Dirty"? 5:12 Why Carson hates small methods 7:24 The myth of clean code and method size 10:06 What the data actually says about long functions 13:11 Why abstraction is not free 15:06 Long vs short functions: maintainability & changeability 18:00 Why small functions make debugging harder 21:34 Beautiful at any size: the case for fat functions 24:19 The myth of good naming solving complexity 26:55 TDD, unit tests, and when they help vs hurt 35:39 End-to-end testing: the good, the bad, the bloated 43:23 Meme culture, cringe, and developer humor 🎙️ Standup Ep. 9: Breaking Clean Code | The Case for Big Functions, Fewer Tests & Cringe Memes In this episode of The Standup, the team is joined by a professor, framework author, and meme artisan to challenge everything you think you know about writing good code. From clean code myths to giant functions, unit testing philosophy, and the value of being strategically cringe, this one is pure gold. 📘 Bonus: Hear about the book Hypermedia Systems, writing with HTMX, and how software was meant to be written. 💬 If you've ever wondered why your code feels overcomplicated or why your test suite is a nightmare, this conversation is for you. 📩 Want to sponsor the show? Reach out: [email protected] 🎥 Produced by Terminal Media #cleancode #HTMX #CodingPhilosophy #SoftwareDevelopment #WebDev #UnitTesting #BigFunctions #CodingMemes #SoftwareEngineering #DevelopersDevelopersDevelopers #TechPodcast #TheStandup