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Mike Durant – Black Hawk Down: The Untold Story of Gary Gordon & Randy Shughart | SRS #259

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Survival, Sacrifice, and Strategy: Chief Warrant Officer Mike Durant on Mogadishu and SOAR Development

Gain insight into the elite development of the 160th SOAR and the minute-by-minute decision-making required to survive captivity after being shot down in the Battle of Mogadishu.

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  • Document the technical evolution of the Black Hawk from medevac support to the Armed Black Hawk (DAP).
  • Detail the extreme physical trauma, survival mindset, and subsequent recovery following capture in Somalia.
  • Highlight critical leadership decisions regarding resource allocation that directly impacted casualty rates in Operation Gothic Serpent.

Durant details his path from enlisted Spanish intercept operator to Master Black Hawk pilot in the elite 160th SOAR. He provides detailed, first-hand accounts of advanced combat maneuvers during Operations Just Cause and Desert Storm, contrasting them sharply with the challenges faced during the mission in Mogadishu. He emphasizes the absolute necessity of incremental focus ("one step forward") during overwhelming adversity.

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Mike Durant is a retired U.S. Army Chief Warrant Officer 4 and Master Black Hawk pilot with the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Night Stalkers). Inspired by his father, a First Sergeant in the Army National Guard, and a family friend’s helicopter flight, Durant enlisted in 1979. After studying Spanish at the Defense Language Institute and serving as a voice intercept operator in Panama, he graduated from flight school at Fort Rucker, Alabama, becoming a Warrant Officer in 1983. He flew over 150 medical evacuation missions in South Korea with the 377th Medical Evacuation Company and later served as an instructor pilot with the 101st Aviation Battalion. Joining the elite 160th SOAR in 1988, Durant flew in Operations Prime Chance, Just Cause, Desert Storm, and Restore Hope. During the 1993 Battle of Mogadishu (Operation Gothic Serpent), his MH-60 Black Hawk was shot down, leaving him severely injured and held captive by Somali militia for 11 days. Despite doctors’ doubts, he recovered, ran the 1995 Marine Corps Marathon, and returned to duty, retiring in 2001. Mike's awards include: Distinguished Service Medal, Distinguished Flying Cross (second award), Bronze Star w/ Valor device, Purple Heart, Meritorious Service Medal, Air Medal w/ Valor device (third award), Army Commendation Medal (fourth award), Joint Service Achievement Medal, Army Achievement Medal, Prisoner of War Medal, Army Good Conduct Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal with Bronze Arrowhead Device (second award), Southwest Asia Service Medal w/ Bronze Service Star, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbon (2nd Award), United Nations Medal, United Nations Medal-Operations in Somalia, Kuwait Liberation Medal-Government of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait Liberation Medal-Government of Kuwait, Master Aviator Badge, and Air Assault Badge. In 2008, Durant founded Pinnacle Solutions in Huntsville, Alabama, a defense contracting firm specializing in military training simulators and veteran employment. He co-authored In the Company of Heroes, focusing on survival and leadership. He also led veterans’ efforts for George W. Bush’s 2004 and John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaigns. He ran in the 2022 Republican primary for Alabama U.S. Senate. Married to Lisa, raising a blended family with six children, Durant enjoys mountain climbing, skiing, hockey, watersports, and running. Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkoujZQZatbqy4KGcgjpVxQ/join Shawn Ryan Show Links SUBSCRIBE: http://www.youtube.com/@ShawnRyanShow Sign up: https://shawnryanshow.com/pages/newsletter Support the Show: https://www.patreon.com/VigilanceElite Download Free Content: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lF-8_5jwRc5eAhzDkqqCOp-6yvd05vAw?usp=sharing Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shawn-ryan-show/id1492492083 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5eodRZd3qR9VT1ip1wI7xQ?si=59f9d106e56a4509 Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnryanshow Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawnryanshow/ Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shawnryanshow/ Follow on Snapchat: https://www.snapchat.com/@shawnryanshow Follow on X: https://twitter.com/ShawnRyanShow SRS Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pqo9Uoh0WuUKxw0BmaK1yrg9Kd7E4lk #vigilanceelite #shawnryanshow Mike Durant Links: LI - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-durant-14a0157 Book - https://a.co/d/9OB6ujI SOWF - https://specialops.org/sowf-home-mobile Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: Receive 30% off your first subscription order. Go to https://armra.com/SRS or enter SRS to get 30% off your first subscription order. Right now, you can try Aura free for 14 days when you visit http://aura.com/SRS Our listeners get 10% off at https://BetterHelp.com/SRS. Head to http://DRINKAG1.com/SRS you’ll get the welcome kit, a Morning Person hat, a bottle of Vitamin D3+K2, and a AG1 Flavor Sampler. 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 02:00 Background and Black Hawk Down 17:01 Becoming a Pilot and Joining 160th SOAR 31:57 Low-Level Flying and Team Coordination 54:06 Special Forces Rotation and Armed Black Hawk 01:03:43 Panama: Operation Just Cause 01:10:38 Combat Reflections and Noriega’s Capture 01:33:54 Desert Storm and Delta’s Scud Missions 01:45:33 Gun Malfunctions and Fixes 01:52:49 Somalia: Conflict and Deployment 02:19:00 Urban Warfare and Target Capture 02:27:03 Mission Six and Black Hawk Down 03:00:48 Crash, Survival, and Rescue Attempts 03:15:00 Capture, Interrogation, and Healing 03:49:14 Hotel Nowhere and Red Cross Visit 04:06:20 Release Negotiations and UN Arrival 04:28:43 Surgeries, Clinton Call, and Ceremony 04:33:52 Reflections on Media and Politics 04:58:32 Special Ops Warrior Foundation 05:10:25 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Top Comments (10)

@MartinKaufman-u7d 2025-12-05

After Mike Durant was shot down, I was working at Sikorsky Aircraft on the Naval Hawk Final Assembly Line on a Friday, I was rushed into the hanger with a team of Sikorsky workers to add MODS to 10 UH-60 Blackhawks from the 10th Mountain Division from Ft. Drum, NY which were leaving on Monday morning. We couldn’t go home, and stayed on for three days until all these aircraft were completed. My job was to wire up all the extended wing’s for external fuel tanks and Hellfire Missiles. Also was taking all the control panels out of the Center Console, remove all the faceplates and putting Saran Wrap under the faceplates because the sand in Somalia was like a powder and getting into the control panels and putting all the faceplates back on the control panels. The mechanics were putting Kevlar plates on the floors and cargo nets behind the pilots seats. All of us completed the mission of completing all these aircraft by Monday morning.

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@GaryBlaster8 2025-12-05

Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart held off 300 to 400 Somali fighters who were trying to get to the crash site. Until now, I never knew they killed 27 of them in 17 minutes before they were ultimately overrun and killed. Absolutely incredible men.

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@bullittmcqueen 2025-12-05

The story of Gordon and Shughart needs to be told as many times as possible. Thanks Shawn

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@guidolyons4912 2025-12-04

I had the privilege of meeting Mike Durant in 2003 at Ft Bragg and got a signed copy of his book "In the Company of Heroes". As a fellow Blackhawk pilot it was a true honor.

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@zigbeegooblesnort125 2025-12-04

Never forget the sacrifice of Mst Sgt Gary Gordon and Sgt1st class Randy Shughart who gave all for their brothers. Both got the MOH posthumously. Semper Fi 🇺🇸

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@edd_Alex 2025-12-04

Mike durant, we wont leave you behind.... comes to my mind

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@FengShuibyJenScottsdale 2025-12-06

I personally learned about the battle in Mogadishu because of the movie Black Hawk Down as a young gal and was always deeply affected by what Gordon and Shughart did. To this day, I always get teary eyed. To watch Durant recount and reflect so personally in an unedited interview is an absolute honor to witness. This story needs to be told over and over again. Thank you so much for your service and for leading the way for so many.

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@johnguerra2172 2025-12-09

Knowing when to not interrupt is a fundamental problem with mainstream media as listening is a artform ! Listening to this has been a honour and thank you Shawn for providing the platform.

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@Bondomondo123 2025-12-06

I was a teacher at Northwest High School in Clarksville, TN at the time. We all knew when those men were deployed & the effect on our students. I had a student named Martin Cleveland Jr who happened to live directly behind me- his father was Crew Chief with CW4 Durant. I’ll never forget the grief and anger that fell on the Ft Campbell community. My husband worked with Durant in the flight simulators & I had the absolute honor of meeting him and some of the survivors- all warriors and heroes.❤️🇺🇸 NSDQ 🇺🇸SOAR🇺🇸 160th Nightstalkers 🇺🇸

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@ScottWilson-BECNY0U 2025-12-07

Thank you CW4 Mike Durant for sharing your story. Thank you Shawn for having him as a guest. As a 18 year old young man, I was working a well paying job with a future in the company and then this happened. I was born to serve and knew I would since a very young age. Money at the time was the draw. The day after this, I reached out to a recruiter and joined the U.S. Army on October 18, 1993. Full well knowing the failures and decisions made at the top, the calling was too strong. I listened to every word in this episode and again thank you for this one. It hits home as SFC Shughart and MSG Gordon are heroes of mine and will always be. Mike is as well, thank you for your sacrifice, hero.

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