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“They’re Underwater!” - MIT Drone CEO on WW3, China Spy Drones & Submersive UFOs | Jesse Hamel • 385

2026-02-17 Entertainment
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SPONSORS: 1) CHEERS HEALTH: Same night out — way better morning with Cheers. For a limited time our listeners are getting 20% off their entire order by using code JULIAN at https://CheersHealth.com #Cheers #ad2 2) AMENTARA: www.amentara.com/go/JULIAN - Discount Code: JD22 for 22% off your FIRST order. 3) MIRACLE BRAND: Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://trymiracle.com/JULIAN and use code JULIAN to save over 40% and get a free 3-piece towel set. JOIN PATREON FOR EARLY UNCENSORED EPISODE RELEASES: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey WATCH PART 1 HERE: https://youtu.be/X6KJYankb5g (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Jesse Hamel is a former Air Force Lt. Colonel & AC-130 Gunship Combat Aviator. He is now CEO of Victus Technologies, a drone warfare company he founded while studying at MIT. JESSE's LINKS: X: https://x.com/jhMITgunship VICTUS: https://www.getvictus.ai/ FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP LISTEN to Julian Dorey Podcast Spotify ▶ https://open.spotify.com/show/5skaSpDzq94Kh16so3c0uz Apple ▶ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trendifier-with-julian-dorey/id1531416289 ****TIMESTAMPS**** 00:00 – Evolution of Drone Warfare & Predator Origins 09:06 – Early Drone Problems, Hellfire & Ukraine Drones 19:06 – Cheap Mass Drones, AI & GPS Battlefield Threats 39:03 – Autonomy, Jamming, Directed Energy & Why Jesse Retired 52:39 – Russia / China Tech Race & Broken Defense Innovation Cycle 1:03:46 – Bureaucracy vs Startups & Fixing Military Innovation 1:13:50 – MIT Lessons, Humility & Building Agile Companies 1:22:46 – Why Jesse Rejected Big Defense Contractors 1:28:21 – GPS Warfare, Spoofing & Victus Solutions 1:38:36 – China Drone Race & Balloon Threats 1:48:32 – China Deception & US Drone Weakness 1:59:23 – China Investment, Data War & Machine Dominance 2:10:40 – Underwater Drones, Fravor & Underwater UFOs 2:15:59 – Spiritual Reality, Faith & Modern Disconnection 2:24:24 – Combat, Faith, WW3, WW4 & Cultural Decline 2:41:36 – Meritocracy, DEI Aftermath & Future Workforce 2:43:52 – Jesse's Work OTHER JDP EPISODES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: - Episode 370 - Daniel DiMartino: https://youtu.be/2n9Y_AJlzmA - Episode 363 - Tyler Oliveira: https://youtu.be/stFmTWhm-X4 - Episode 292 - Ed Calderon: https://youtu.be/0FYmNDhhszs - Episode 293 - Ed Calderon: https://youtu.be/0FYmNDhhszs - Episode 265 - Kat Szulc: https://youtu.be/I6JUJCxKnDU - Episode 313 - Kat Szulc: https://youtu.be/WvX9-G5IYh0 - Episode 336 - Kat Szulc: https://youtu.be/E54bS9kFczQ CREDITS: - Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey - COO, Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ - In-Studio Producer: Joey Deef - https://www.instagram.com/joeydeef/ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 385 - Jesse Hamel Music by Artlist.io

Top Comments (10)

@MrLazyDazy 2026-02-17

Am I the only one who thinks Jesse kind of looks like Julian from the future?

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@JoshuaWade-xc8cp 2026-02-18

I am a field service engineer so I travel a lot, I really like these long form conversations for long drives.

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@LerrinB 2026-02-18

Julian’s recall for episode numbers blows my mind every time

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@JulianDorey 2026-02-17

subscribe so i can buy a drone and JOIN PATREON FOR EARLY UNCENSORED EPISODE RELEASES: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey

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@nacht_kaperschiff2670 2026-02-17

U.S. Navy battleships (Missouri and Wisconsin) operated RQ-2A Pioneer unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs/drones) during the 1991 Gulf War for reconnaissance and gunfire spotting. These drones provided real-time surveillance, allowing for precise targeting of 16-inch guns and, in a famous instance, Iraqi soldiers surrendered to a drone. World War II (1940s): The Radioplane OQ-2A was the first mass-produced drone used by the US Army for target practice. Vietnam War (1960s-70s): Ryan Model 147 "Lightning Bug" drones were used for reconnaissance. Modern Era (1990s): The RQ-1 Predator, which offered long-endurance intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR), entered service in 1995. Armed Drones (2001-2002): The MQ-1 Predator was fitted with AGM-114 Hellfire missiles, initiating the era of armed, unmanned combat in 2001, with widespread use starting in 2002.

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@reecewoods1775 2026-02-18

Got my coffee and donuts for this one. Letssss goooo!

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@irollerblade13 2026-02-17

25:35 Thank you Julian for asking this even though we all know the answer is a long time before the public knows. I appreciate you asking the realness in asking that question.

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@brandonkelly6837 2026-02-18

Thanks for the convo guys I appreciate you both!!

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@jessicaknapp1211 2026-03-02

❤❤❤ ~ YESsss!!! THANK YOU Julian Dorey & Jesse Hamel- for words of the heart are needed to be spoken

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@skywizard3148 2026-04-27

Really intelligent dude and a great communicator. So easy to listen to folks like this.

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