Tim Miller and Ta-Nehisi Coates Clash Over Obama’s Speech | Bulwark Podcast

Obama never thought Trump could win in 2016, perhaps because he underestimated how much the opposition loathed him. At the opening of his new presidential center on Thursday, he spoke of presidents acting with duty, honor, and kindness—even though the current occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is all about destroying things, being mean, hurting people, and starting dumb wars. Indeed, Trump's foreign policy may be more in the American tradition than Obama's. Plus, a debate over whether Kamala's response to Gaza cost her the White House along with her standing in the party. Also, some Knicks love and another installment in the perils and pitfalls of wokeness—this time with some Talarico comments from 2020. Ta-Nehisi Coates joins Tim Miller for the Juneteenth holiday weekend pod. Go to http://Dupe.com for their 100% Free Research for Me comparison shopping tool. Finally feel good about what you’re buying with Dupe.com #sponsored Show Notes: Ta-Nehisi's latest piece in Vanity Fair: https://www.vanityfair.com/story/the-next-black-president Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join Chapters: 00:00:00 Cold Open 00:00:19 Opening and Obama Library Reflections 00:04:16 Obama’s Blind Spot on Trump 00:06:49 Obama, Romney, and Republican Values 00:11:57 Ad Break - Dupe.com 00:14:37 Foreign Policy and American Power 00:24:22 Gaza, Politics, and Moral Responsibility 00:37:15 Can American Politics Get Better? 00:43:44 Woke Politics and Political Messaging 00:53:14 Communicating Across Divides