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AI Czar David Sacks Explains the DeepSeek Freak Out

2025-02-02 Entertainment
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(0:00) Sacks breaks down the tech community's DeekSeek freak out, and how we should think about the reported $6M training number (8:43) Chamath and Friedberg on what AI startups can learn from DeepSeek Full episode: https://youtu.be/8RkgkOqWs0s Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect #allin #tech #news

Top Comments (10)

@LDacic 2025-02-02

Chamath's point on American VCs showering founders with money is very important. Anyone who's followed private markets for the past 4-5 years can recognize the trend and the necessity to correct it.

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@sriramaswamy 2025-02-02

Chamath is absolutely 💯 spot on. Agree. We created our proprietary claims language model even before openAI came out with ChatGPT for costs similar to actually less than DeepSeek right here in Silicon Valley. But investors want the hype, brash entrepreneurs, and flashy startups to invest millions and billions. You’re giving too much money to startups that don’t have a sustainable business model, and a good product in much needed industries and spaces. VCs keep giving me this theory that it has to be horizontal but nothing about LLMs are proprietary so anyone can come up with various other models more cost effectively down the road. It’s in the small domain models and implementations and open source libraries for middleware and some software around LLms that has intrinsically more value.

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@SkyCaughtTV 2025-02-03

There's a simple creativity maxim here: More limitations lead to more innovations.

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@larryhorowitz6690 2025-02-03

The biggest impact is that you can now run a good AI model in a desktop computer, with no internet connection. That lets companies and people worldwide access AI that required US company involvement previously. That fact reduces American exceptionality in this area, and will end up driving investment money more worldwide.

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@GrantHodgsonWnNZ 2025-02-03

Chamath ‘S point reminds me of Ernest Rutherford’s dicta to a British Science Policy committee after WW 1 “ We havent the money, so we will have to THINK”

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@kurtzhang8076 2025-02-05

Well said. When US failed to compete, National security and ideology are their ways to divert

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@PitchThePM 2025-02-03

So many important insights in this episode. Thanks for the help in breaking through some of the noise.

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@folarinosibodu 2025-02-03

Excellent analysis.

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@nathanngumi8467 2025-02-03

Great insights!

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@william53 2025-02-03

Thank you.

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