THIS is How Backlash Against ICE Starts (w/ Sam Stein) | The Bulwark Podcast

For some reason, the president thinks he is winning the news cycle by occupying a great American city and ordering his agents to violently confront U.S. citizens. But polling and anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. At the same time, Dems have got to stop tying themselves up in knots over what language to use about ICE. Just keep the messaging fight focused on Trump, Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem, and ICE. Plus, a strike on Iran is looking less likely, Jeff Bezos is a chicken and should sell The Post, the administration is pushing food rationing, our European allies are planning military exercises over the threat to Greenland, and what happened to the Epstein files? Sam Stein joins Tim Miller. Let ZipRecruiter help you find the best people for all of your roles! See for yourself! Just go to this exclusive web address right now to try ZipRecruiter for free: https://ZipRecruiter.com/BULWARK During Tovala’s New Year Sale, you can get a FREE Tovala smart oven when you order meals 6+ times by heading to https://Tovala.com/BULWARK using my code BULWARK! Show Notes: Lauren on the battle among Dems over the term, "Abolish ICE" https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/democrats-abolish-ice-reform-searchlight-memo?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web The reporter who applied to be an ICE agent https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2026/01/ice-recruitment-minneapolis-shooting.html Sam's piece about the Dougs https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/11/doug-politicians-00110340 Tim and Sam debating the worst Cabinet members https://youtu.be/6Aa0g9vUysE?si=6bTwF_ORsEJ_J9_O Send tips from on the ground in MN to [email protected] Chapters: 00:00:00 Cold open 00:00:22 Minneapolis crackdown and Trump’s endgame 00:06:03 “I’ve never protested” — the breaking point 00:09:07 DHS account, ICE tactics, and calls for the Guard 00:17:16 Ad break: ZipRecruiter 00:18:28 Who’s getting hired as ICE agents 00:28:18 FBI searches a reporter’s home 00:35:41 Ad break: Tovala 00:37:42 Iran: Trump, “clean strike” talk, and protest dynamics 00:43:47 Mississippi synagogue arson and online radicalization 00:46:11 Cabinet update 00:56:45 Epstein files delay and the closing salute