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Calm Down—Democrats WON the Shutdown! (w/ Will Saletan) | The Bulwark Podcast

2025-11-10 News & Politics
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Analyzing Trump's Political Reality Following Shutdown Leverage and Weekend Events

Understand why Democrats secured crucial short-term political leverage in the recent shutdown despite online criticism, and see what the administration's latest actions reveal about its true priorities and political base.

Short Summary

  • Democrats sustained a long shutdown fight, achieving short-term concessions like extending SNAP benefits coverage.
  • Outrage over the final deal is largely dismissed as stemming from an "online" perspective, as the opposition party prioritizes intransigence over constituent pain.
  • Republicans exhibit severe message incoherence regarding policy, highlighted by their inability to articulate a clear healthcare plan beyond Trump's impulsive brainstorming.
  • Direct public rejection of Donald Trump via booing at an NFL stadium offered a moment of reassurance regarding the political backlash against his administration.

This discussion breaks down the political fallout after the government funding resolution, analyzing GOP messaging failures, the impact of recent mass pardons, and the significance of Trump's public rejection in Washington DC. It offers a strategic view on why loud, emotional support does not always equate to effective political victory when facing entrenched opposition.

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The very online crowd is very upset, but Dems did fight like Republicans. This was a longer shutdown than anything the Tea Party pulled and real pain was being caused. Democrats have now made the cost of healthcare front and center—while Republicans keep showing that they are the party of billionaires, Mar-a-Lago soirées, and golden ballrooms. Plus, President Al Capone pardoned all the people who tried to help him steal the 2020 election, pro-democracy Americans must stay united against the evil of the administration's deportation policy, and the effort to keep POTUS in a bubble really backfired Sunday night at the Commanders' stadium. Will Saletan joins Tim Miller. Show Notes: - Will on Trump's disregard for his party: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/no-one-matters-to-trump-but-trump? - Jon Chait on ending the shutdown without ending the filibuster: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2025/11/democrats-shutdown-mistake/684878/? - The NYT on Venezuelans sent to CECOT in El Salvador: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/08/world/americas/el-salvador-prison-migrants.html - Book referenced by Tim, "Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here": https://bookshop.org/p/books/everyone-who-is-gone-is-here-the-united-states-central-america-and-the-making-of-a-crisis-jonathan-blitzer/d7d4a22ec001c9ff - F*%k your khakis and get The Perfect Jean 15% off with the code BULWARK15 at theperfectjean.nyc/BULWARK15 #theperfectjeanpod - Right now get up to 55% off your Babbel subscription at Babbel.com/BULWARK. - Start your new morning ritual & get up to 43% off your @MUDWTR at mudwtr.com/THEBULWARK! #mudwtrpod Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join

Top Comments (10)

@GabbaDabbaTracks 2025-11-10

I’m online and I’m a real person impacted by this shutdown AND impacted by the insane lawless actions of this Administration. This is maddening. A shutdown shows the chaos of a Trump presidency more clearly.

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@asianwoof 2025-11-10

You know why people are pissed at the golden ballroom? It's because all of these corporations were donating millions to its construction even while firing thousands of people to boost their bottom line.

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@Chalidriform 2025-11-11

Ask me how much of a win it feels like when I can no longer afford my cancer treatment in 2 months.

234 5 replies
@SherryStaggs-nb1xx 2025-11-10

I am not an “online” person, I am a senior citizen , this not an “emotional thing”, this is not a laughing matter, this is our day to day life we are fighting for. Please don’t dismiss us so lightly! What about our healthcare insurance that is going up in January?

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@FR2024-er8ku 2025-11-10

KEEP IT LOUD USA The rest of the world loves to see you off the mat. Keep going. Never surrender your country to those maga jerks.

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@channelelyse 2025-11-10

There is no guarantee there will be a vote. And from their history, I say they just won’t even take it up on the floor.

177 8 replies
@WokeNotWeak 2025-11-11

I've spoken to 5 democrats today IN PERSON who are pissed about this. This isn't just the 'online' people.

176 3 replies
@jswift20 2025-11-11

the fact that “Raging Moderates” is more outraged than the bulwark by this is CRAZY!

153 11 replies
@ToadstoolWhimsy 2025-11-10

My family’s largest monthly is expense healthcare already. As a barely middle class American,I won’t know I am dying til it’s happening . Then when I go my hubby will have huge amounts of debt. Yeah no we definitely should have had a backbone and held out.

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@mikeomalley5407 2025-11-11

There’s always a deal in it for Senators. When I saw Sen. Durbin vote to end the shutdown, I thought…what was in it for him. Today, I read in the Chicago Tribune that Bovino is leaving Chicago and the ICE agents and Border patrol are being reassigned outside IL. It may be a coincidence but I don’t believe it. The agents leaving was a surprise.

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