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The Department of War vs. the Pope (w/ Ed Condon)

2026-04-09 News & Politics
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JVL talks with Ed Condon of The Pillar about the escalating clash between the Vatican and the Trump administration after Pope Leo’s comments on the Iran war. They unpack the shocking report that a Vatican ambassador was confronted by the Pentagon, JD Vance’s awkward response, and why the American pope likely won’t be visiting the U.S. anytime soon. Read more from JVL: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-department-of-war-vs-the-pope Read more from Ed Condon: https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/when-will-leo-come-home Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join

Top Comments (10)

@LeroyRaghunath 2026-04-09

The US has threatened, Panama, Canada, Greenland and now the Pope.

398 34 replies
@kathycappucci6015 2026-04-09

Im a lapsed Catholic but threatening the POPE? W THE ACTUAL FCK?

325 26 replies
@martinshillitoe4735 2026-04-09

the pope saying don’t commit genocide is not political!!

287 11 replies
@mattriley2532 2026-04-09

The pope is a better example of what it means to be an American than our VP and President.

280 4 replies
@Wim1979 2026-04-09

The cardinals didn't put this particular American in charge of the catholic church by accident.

218 7 replies
@BiglyFakeNews562 2026-04-09

The DOD threat to the Pope should be much bigger news. YOU CANNOT THREATEN THE POPE. People of many faiths all over the world will be horrified

199 6 replies
@Whoooooo676 2026-04-09

" A society that mocks virtue prepares its own demise". Plato.

163 9 replies
@doll2936 2026-04-09

I grew up catholic but im no longer practicing but attacking the pope is just so insane and offensive.

147 3 replies
@CharlesBlair-o1x 2026-04-09

Being against war crimes shouldn't be conterversial.

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@Blue0cean 2026-04-09

The Pope telling people to contact their representatives is also very AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.

95 1 replies

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