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You Can Tell When Trump Doesn’t Believe It (w/ Charles Duhigg) | The Bulwark Podcast

2026-02-24 News & Politics
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Apart from all the lies MAGA is forced to say in defense of Donald Trump, the movement is actually better at political organizing than Democrats. So while the Dems can pull off the massive No Kings rallies, the protests are just one day and the energy can fizzle away. But MAGA is really focused on turning out the vote so they can win. And they got the idea from the big tent campaign tactics that Obama deployed in 2008 and 2012. Plus, some advice on how Dem candidates can turn their communications into a superpower—like stop proposing solutions when voters are mad and just want to vent. The New Yorker’s Charles Duhigg joins Tim Miller. To get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to https://NakedWines.com/THEBULWARK and use code THEBULWARK for both the code AND PASSWORD. Get 20% off when you go to https://trustandwill.com/BULWARK Show Notes: Charles's piece, "What MAGA Can Teach Democrats About Organizing—and Infighting" https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/02/02/what-maga-can-teach-democrats-about-organizing-and-infighting Charles's book, "Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection" https://bookshop.org/p/books/supercommunicators-how-to-unlock-the-secret-language-of-connection-charles-duhigg/7a25d02cace0aa84 Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join

Top Comments (10)

@kristenderr1798 2026-02-25

As a volunteer for the Obama 08 campaign, this is a completely different landscape we are navigating today. When I engaged with voters while canvassing I didn’t have to fight against social media and influencers.

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@djohnson0713 2026-02-24

You know what else isn’t fun- racism, misogyny, destroying the environment, tax cuts for the rich & corporations, demonizing immigrants, demonizing vaccines, a President who makes himself rich while in office, politicians trying to steal elections & when that fails supporting an insurrection, stealing from students who enrolled in fake university, stealing from your own charity, bragging about sexual assault- no fun at all.

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@suncatpatch 2026-02-24

So Americans *did* hear him say that what matters to him is racism and hate and they said, “sure, we’ll go for it!”

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@jasonloader8149 2026-02-24

MAGA is a big tent because people are willing to sacrifice everything from their dignity to economic ruin in order to express their racism. Also, it's obviously a cult of personality.

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@chrisg723 2026-02-24

A Psychopath linked with stupid people is your winning combo apparently.

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@tcat6596 2026-02-24

I think its a bad thing if we all stop caring when our politicians lie to us honestly

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@fts_space_shark 2026-02-24

Tim, one of the reasons you are so popular is because you are authentically yourself. I really appreciate it.

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@Johnnyrocket5834 2026-02-25

I read that article when it came out. I agree to an extent. The huge advantage that MAGA has is it’s built on BS— not disagreeable ideas but actual BS —and nobody in that movement cares.

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@elizabethclark8374 2026-02-24

Hi Tim, You are one of the many people employed by the Bulwark that I think it would be great to meet. Watching pretty much ALL of the Bulwark podcasts for a bit now, I admire ALL of you! Thank you for your service to us citizens of these United States! I am a devoted subscriber. Elizabeth in Texas

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@user-jy8zb2wc8l 2026-02-25

IMHO: Organize like Minnesota. Build parallel infrastructure from the ground up. Bond over joyful things and sense of purpose/contribution that brings everyone together.

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