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History Will Judge Us (w/ Jacob Soboroff & Sarah McBride) | Bulwark Podcast

2025-10-10 News & Politics
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Authoritarian Backlash Versus Ground Truth: Immigration Raids and Democratic Coalition Building

Journalist Jacob Soberoff details the human cost of widespread ICE operations in Chicago, revealing tactics designed to provoke conflict, while Senator Sarah McBride explains why Democrats must build a “big tent coalition” to counter Trump’s consolidation of power.

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  • Federal agents employ indiscriminate sweeps in Chicago neighborhoods, often targeting non-criminals and documenting actions like Michael Bay films, causing local outrage.
  • The judge blocking federal troop deployment in Illinois highlights the pretextual nature of these operations, which conservatives suggest aim to invoke the Insurrection Act.
  • Senator Sarah McBride argues that confronting Trump’s authoritarian actions requires Democrats to prioritize coalition building and deliver tangible results on issues like healthcare, bypassing purity tests.
  • The discussion draws parallels between current immigration crackdowns and historic American tragedies, noting that ICE is now even detaining U.S. citizens.

This episode fuses on-the-ground reporting from Chicago with high-level political strategy discussions. Listeners gain insight into the tactical use of federal law enforcement to intimidate the public and understand the necessary strategic shift—embracing ideological diversity—required to oppose systemic threats to democracy.

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The administration may be trying to lay the groundwork for Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act by invading Chicago, but the real human stories are breaking through: ordinary Chicagoans are outraged that good, decent immigrants are being snatched off the street and their families' lives ruined. And while Kristi Noem keeps promoting the bad guys that are being rounded up, ICE is also treating American citizens abhorrently. Plus, from our live show in D.C., Rep. Sarah McBride talks with Sarah Longwell about the need for a big tent coalition without purity tests, and how the Dem demands for a renewal of the ACA subsidies is also a challenge to Trump's authoritarian power grab. Jacob Soboroff joins Tim Miller and Rep. Sarah McBride was live with Sarah Longwell. show notes Stephen Miller discussing plenary authority on CNN https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1o1ra0c/stephen_miller_stops_talking_completely_after/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Tim's 'Bulwark Take' with George Reddis will be posted here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bulwark-takes/id1794450472 Jacob's book, "Separated: Inside an American Tragedy" https://bookshop.org/p/books/separated-inside-an-american-tragedy-jacob-soboroff/392f1a291b04f998 Stephen Markely's book, "The Deluge," referenced by Tim https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-deluge-stephen-markley/af16ec3487176fba "City of Quartz," by Mike Davis, referenced by Jacob https://bookshop.org/p/books/city-of-quartz-excavating-the-future-in-los-angeles-mike-davis/3a3188c540ad7fd3?ean=9781786635891&next=t&next=t Tix for MSNBC live show Saturday in NYC https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-live-25 Tim's playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0dApY6YT48kTh6j9xFDQch Get 30% off your first order from Soul at https://GetSoul.com with promo code TheBulwark. Get 10% off your first month of therapy with BetterHelp at https://BetterHelp.com/THEBULWARK #sponsored Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join

Top Comments (10)

@bryonkidder6199 2025-10-10

Trump was found guilty by a jury, not AG James...btw

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@KellyDavidson5946 2025-10-10

Your daughter set a goal and then did the work to achieve it. Trump just wants the Nobel Peace Prize to be handed to him, even though his actions are anything but peaceful.

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@maureenmamarella8829 2025-10-10

Thanks for having Jacob Soboroff on to update us on some of the horrific stories he has covered. It’s important to keep them in the news to inspire us to carry on with the resistance.

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@lanihummel8397 2025-10-10

If you can fit it into your schedule, it might be interesting to take up Jacob on his offer of a ride-along. You will reach audiences that he may not reach, and showing peoples' stories first hand would be powerful.

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@simonebye6771 2025-10-11

I’m Australian and I’m still absolutely shocked that his family separation the first time around wasn’t enough to rule him out as someone so heinous that no one would ever vote for him. There are kids that have never seen their parents again.

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@debeesdays1321 2025-10-10

I so appreciated you sharing your personal grief Tim. I'm so sorry for the loss of your family member. One thing about Grandmothers, their memories only grow sweeter over time. Thinking of you and your family Tim. Sorry for your loss.

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@druspork7737 2025-10-10

Not just history. The rest of the world is watching right now.

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@tontul7 2025-10-10

If Trump won the Nobel Peace Prize I would have spontaneously combusted.

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@Lovedogs-q8r 2025-10-10

If a masked person with no visible ID wearing all black and has a gun in their hand came at me I’d be running too. The common sense thing to do is think they’re a bad person and run away.

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@RevP369 2025-10-10

14:28 💯💯💯This is the whole strategy: Claim the insurrection act, then send in military, then use those unidentifiable, masked, armed men to surround polling places in blue states, especially swing districts. This is their whole plan

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