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Imagination Is Closer To Truth Than You Think | Tom Cheetham

2024-06-30 Education
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Natalia Vorontsova talks to Dr Tom Cheetham about active imagination, consciousness and life-changing experiences in the context of the philosophy and theology of Henry Corbin, Ibn Arabi and Surhawardi. Tom offers a unique perspective on post-materialist science, having come full circle from scientific materialism through Jungian psychology and Sufi mysticism to the realization that science is not an obstacle to accessing the transcendent. It's a thought-provoking conversation about the nature of reality and what it means to be human. You can find out more about Tom's work at https://www.tomcheetham.com/ 00:00 Intro: Accessing reality through imagination. 03:58 Corbin saved my soul! From scientific materialism to philosophy of Henry Corbin. 12:23 Can we do natural sciences outside of materialist reductive paradigm? 18:10 Transformative experiences. Crazy stuff? Angels, paranormal, UFOs. 31:19 Are emotions just chemistry, and love not important? What's imagination for? 35:39 Literalism and fundamentalism. Literalizing - a mode of imagining. It's just love? 54:39 Access to the sacred: imaginal vs. imaginary. Mundus Imaginalis - the imaginal realm. 01:06:30 It's all imagination down and up! Corbin's Neoplatonic cosmology in the 21st century. 01:17:43 Where's our consciousness? Relationship: brain - mind/soul/consciousness. 01:20:57 What if our world queerer than we can suppose? Consciousness & language. 01:25:37 Sacred plant medicine experiences. Matter-mind, substance-meaning. 01:28:18 Success in sciences: mixed blessing? Learnings from indigenous cultures. 01:37:27 Science tells the truth? Our connection with arts, music, literature. 01:42:56 Corbin's theology: human-angel relationship. Can we retrieve the imagination? 01:48:10 Should we keep or abolish Corbin's cosmology? 01:56:15 Nature of reality: metaphysics of Corbin, Ibn Arabi and Suhrawardi. 02:01:33 Does materialism destroy the world? On the richness of being: living is glory! 02:16:40 I didn't choose Corbin, he chose me! Recommended literature. Copyright © 2024 by Essentia Foundation. All rights reserved.

Top Comments (10)

@hoykoya3382 2024-06-30

"Introspection is the royal avenue to knowledge" - Bernardo Kastrup

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@jenmdawg 2024-06-30

Coming back to add that outside of Kastrup’s interview on TOE this discussion reunited and ignited worlds inside of me as an ex materialist but life long closeted idealist with a deep love of science and a hope for humanity inside our destructive systems. I’ve read many of the authors Cheetham references but not all and have my year ahead cut out for me. Brilliant interviewer as well - she added excellent points.

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@mcawesomeytyo3312 2024-08-09

Materialism sent us to a horrible dark age that we never truly left not even after the Renaissance. Luckily people like Donald Hoffman, Tom Cheetham, Eben Alexander, and Bernardo Kastrup are lights leading us out the cave

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@tomdorman2486 2024-06-30

Wonderful show. I love Tom's excitement in the ontology. I have similar views and excitement in these subjects. I remember my stomach having butterflies when I discovered Don Hoffman. This talk reminds me of the reality shifting at that time.

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@IamPoob 2024-08-20

Empathy is an easy pathway to a higher level of consciousness

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@surrendertoflow78 2024-07-04

I love this interviewer, she always does a great job!

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@MJA2025YT 2024-06-30

Excellent! Indeed "our limit" is the limit of our imagination(s).

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@tzmythos 2024-07-04

I came to Corbin through Jung, who wrote about Corbin before Hillman did, by the way. Jung declared after a long talk with Corbin that he and his psychology had never been so well understood before. Thank you for this interview with Tom Cheetham.....he is such a vivacious, fascinating speaker with an incredibly far-ranging intelligence. His work on Corbin is so valuable.

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@nameless-yd6ko 2025-03-27

"Logic will get you from A to Z; Imagination will get you everywhere!" - Albert Einstein

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@tbabbittt 2024-06-30

He impressed me with his ability to return to topic after long segue.

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