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Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI | SRS #208

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Alex Wang is the CEO and co-founder of Scale AI, a leading data platform accelerating the development of artificial intelligence applications. Founded in 2016, Scale AI provides high-quality training data for AI models, serving clients like OpenAI, Microsoft, and the U.S. Department of Defense. A former software engineering prodigy, Wang dropped out of MIT to build Scale AI, which is now valued at over $13 billion. Recognized on Forbes’ 30 Under 30 and TIME’s 100 Most Influential People in AI, Wang is a prominent voice in shaping the future of AI innovation and deployment. He advocates for responsible AI development and policies to ensure ethical and secure AI advancements. Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkoujZQZatbqy4KGcgjpVxQ/join Shawn Ryan Show Links SUBSCRIBE: http://www.youtube.com/@ShawnRyanShow Sign up: https://shawnryanshow.com/pages/newsletter Support the Show: https://www.patreon.com/VigilanceElite Download Free Content: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lF-8_5jwRc5eAhzDkqqCOp-6yvd05vAw?usp=sharing Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shawn-ryan-show/id1492492083 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5eodRZd3qR9VT1ip1wI7xQ?si=59f9d106e56a4509 Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnryanshow Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawnryanshow/ Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shawnryanshow/ Follow on X: https://twitter.com/ShawnRyanShow SRS Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4pqo9Uoh0WuUKxw0BmaK1yrg9Kd7E4lk #vigilanceelite #shawnryanshow #scaleai #ai #tech #meta #engineering Alex Wang Links: Website - ⁠https://scale.com⁠ Scale AI X - ⁠https://x.com/scale_ai⁠ Alex X - ⁠https://x.com/alexandr_wang⁠ LI - ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/scaleai Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: ⁠⁠https://www.roka.com⁠⁠ - USE CODE SRS ⁠⁠https://www.tryarmra.com/srs⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.lumen.me/srs⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://patriotmobile.com/srs ⁠⁠https://www.rocketmoney.com/srs⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.shopify.com/srs⁠⁠ 00:00 Intro & Thoughts on Tech 00:39 Neuralink & Brain Interfaces 02:48 AI, Evolution & Risks 10:08 Applications & Implications of AI 19:24 AI’s Role in Society & Governance 28:47 Alex Wang’s Journey 47:58 The Dark Forest Hypothesis & Extraterrestrial Life 54:23 Childhood, Los Alamos & Perfectionism 01:06:52 MIT, AI Work & Founding Scale AI 01:20:22 Scale AI’s Growth & Defense Use 01:35:21 AI in Military Strategy & Wargaming 01:42:43 AI Warfare & Intelligence 02:09:52 Government, National Security & AI 02:27:05 Data Centers & Nuclear Power 02:31:02 China’s AI Plan & Espionage 02:44:09 Security Threats & Taiwan Chip Crisis 03:00:18 Future of AI & Global Cooperation 03:21:47 Conclusion & Final Thoughts

Top Comments (10)

@getrekkedon 2025-06-16

Shawn looks like he's dressed to meet a tech guy and Alex is dressed like he's going to meet a military guy

682 22 replies
@ShawnRyanShow 2025-06-12

Do you trust AI? Yes No 👇🏼 👇🏼

600 554 replies
@norcalzack 2025-06-12

I think there should be a federal law that ANY AI content is watermarked or a verbal warning is given before any AI audio.

357 31 replies
@silverhaze7329 2025-06-12

AI isn't the danger. People seeking to control you through the use of AI is.

258 36 replies
@longpoint17 2025-06-13

As a lineman who works for a public utility, I can attest to the fact that unless our politicians get their heads out of their asses, we're fucked when it comes to the power grid. We have a huge data center being built in the utility I work for and there is currently a public campaign to stop the needed transmission lines from being built to provide the additional capacity that is required. The public is so asleep about the issues with the grid, and the amount of power the data centers need is astronomical. People are upset about more power lines they'll have to look at and have zero idea of what not upgrading and modifying our grid will mean for the US.

243 36 replies
@Accurize2 2025-06-14

This kid is level 20 for intelligence and a level 1 for wisdom.

216 41 replies
@jessemiller70 2025-06-12

After hearing this show, I am extremely worried about humanity’s future. This show has definitely been an eye opener

208 12 replies
@amoakokojo4672 2025-06-13

Shoutout to Shawn for always asking the right questions and allowing his guests to actually talk

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@lookatthetrees7494 2025-06-12

How I miss the 70s ....

106 8 replies
@lissjd2698 2025-06-15

The love for math and science. Product of public schools. The difference was of having parents that care. As a math teacher, I feel proud of this kid. Hopefully he does not get corrupted.

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