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Indigenous Science with Neil deGrasse Tyson & Dr. Jessica Hernandez

2022-05-19 Science & Technology
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Is Western science always the best science? On this episode, Neil deGrasse Tyson and comic co-host Marcia Belsky discuss Indigenous methods to combat climate change with Indigenous scientist and author Dr. Jessica Hernandez. What can we learn from Indigenous science? We talk about reductive versus holistic approaches to science and how sociology informs the rest of science. Where does aspirin come from? Learn about traditional medicinal plants, the Maya Ch’orti’ people, and how Indigenous knowledge can help us fix climate change. Discover how much of the world’s biodiversity exists on Indigenous lands. How much of the Earth is considered Indigenous? We learn about the Land Back Movement and other movements to reclaim land embedded in environmentalism. Can you harvest wood without killing trees? Find out how. We explore the concept of ancestral knowledge and Native writing traditions. How much did we lose through colonialism and slavery? How do we get policymakers to listen to solutions Indigenous people have been saying for generations? Does it always take an environmental catastrophe in order for people to listen? We discuss the co-opting of permaculture, how Indigenous methods can help us curtail forest fires, and how spirituality and science intertwine. Is it really possible to separate science from the influences of the world? All that and more on another episode of StarTalk! Thanks to our Patrons Jennifer E Carr, Ruben, Peter Kellner, Michele Bontemps, eric secrist, Zebulon C, Travis Ryan Otter, Matthew Young, SevereFLIPPER, and Cleo K for supporting us this week. NOTE: StarTalk+ Patrons can watch or listen to this entire episode commercial-free. Get the NEW Cosmic Queries book (5/5 ⭐s on Amazon!): https://amzn.to/3dYIEQF Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/startalkradio FOLLOW or SUBSCRIBE to StarTalk: Twitter: http://twitter.com/startalkradio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StarTalk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startalk About StarTalk: Science meets pop culture on StarTalk! Astrophysicist & Hayden Planetarium director Neil deGrasse Tyson, his comic co-hosts, guest celebrities & scientists discuss astronomy, physics, and everything else about life in the universe. Keep Looking Up! #StarTalk #NeildeGrasseTyson 0:00 - Introduction 1:04 - Jessica Hernandez’s Background 2:45 - Indigenous vs Modern Science 9:40 - Indigenous Perspectives On Climate Change 14:12 - Jessica’s Research 14:58 - Indigenous Land & Biodiversity 18:45 - Sustainability Practices 24:07 - Preserving Indigenous Practices 28:41 - Banana Leaves 31:43 - Incorporating Indigenous Knowledge 39:57 - Sustainability In Times Of Globalization 41:46 - Bridging Gaps Between Spirituality & Science 45:31 - Closing Notes

Top Comments (10)

@homewall744 2022-05-19

Most trees that are cut down include a lot of damage to the land around it, and when replanted, they tend to replant the "useful" tree and lose the diversity that the original forest had.

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@B1u35ky 2022-05-19

Western science? Science is just science.

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@Vox_Popul1 2022-05-19

Idk she sounds less like a scientist and more a sociologist at the beginning

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@lalah9481 2022-05-22

Old growth forests are diverse. ‘New’ or replacement trees are usually one or two types of trees and zero biodiversity. These are less resistant to disease, less able to recover from fires, and it takes decades to grow into a mature system that supports entire ecosystems. Consider what happens when just one predator is removed from one area; like the wild wolfs that were seen as a threat to farmers and ranchers. Once gone, regional deer and antelope herds grew affecting the growth of various trees, grasses, flora, and fauna etc. Which changed the ecosystem for multiple smaller animals and insects. This led to losses of the literal root system that maintained the land and water systems. Everything from ponds to rivers to lakes and wetlands were either rerouted or eliminated completely. Some insects and plant diseases became dominate and further destroyed our natural biodiversity. When the original wolf was returned, so did the ecosystem. It will take decades to get back to what the natural world had created. There had been a huge cost to not just the national parks ability to maintain the land, but also to agriculture and forestry. Even the water table was impacted.

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@JordanAF808 2022-05-20

Thanks so much for having an enjoyable episode on such a fascinating topic. Having grown up in hawaii I was fortunate to learn about the vast history and knowledge native peoples have. They were some of the best ocean navigators in the world, using the stars and the environment. They developed advanced farming methods to grow surplus food with aquaculture. They invented surfing! I hope you have more episodes like this, there are some great ppl to interview at University of Hawaii.

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@homewall744 2022-05-19

She confuses the tyranny of government power over free people with science and those who prefer science to victim ideology and pointing to those who steal, cheat, lie and extort. That's not science, and pretending victims have better knowledge is absurd if they are too timid to have it made available for open inquiry.

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@jamespaterson5842 2022-05-23

If someone does an experiment with "western science" and another does the same experiment with science that has "identity" included, should we expect different results? If so, why?

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@heyasasha 2022-05-20

The 500 year fight for survival by indigenous peoples turns out they were fighting for the survival of the species of the entire world. Heroic.

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@potentialhvac6074 2022-06-10

Non stop chills on this one! I'm so happy Niel had these folks on! Feel like these people have so much to teach us and rarely get a platform to talk! Coming from a mixed race guy thats always wanted to be a part of the solution

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@khodraldebiat1195 2022-05-20

Such a powerful video I really hope it blows up and maybe ppl will listen 🙏

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