Debating the Morality of Dario Amodei

I never felt as safe with AI as when I started using PAI. For me it goes even further than that. Whatever new idea that comes out to improve the use of AI I feed to PAI. Most of it gets noted by saying we already have this, and if not, adding it to its stack is mostly just a prompt away for KAI to deal with and apply. Also hallucination is very rare, trust is built very fast. PAI, my autonomous, individual/institutional secure human ally, my daily driver. Thank you Daniel!

I'm grateful to have PAI in my life. There is all this talk about loops these days. Well we've had loops in PAI for a long time. Thank you Daniel!

Daniel is an absolute GOAT in this space. The man literally eats, breathes, and sleeps AI for the benefit of humanity, and that level of dedication shows in every single thing he puts out. His raw, unbiased skill in this field is unmatched, and the fact that his opponent is out here acting like he's the authority is genuinely hilarious. Like bro, did you do ANY research before stepping into this debate? Because if you had spent even a weekend going through Daniel's work, you would've walked in here with a completely different approach or maybe not walked in at all. 😂 Daniel reasoning will never make a man correct an opinion that he never arrived at through reasoning. You can't logic someone out of a position they ego'd themselves into. The gap in expertise here isn't even close. It's not a debate it's a masterclass with an unwilling student. 😭

The fukin problem is you are both 100% legit correct which is the problem, what's the better path I can't tell, doomed either way?

This was challenging to watch. Your ability to discuss amicably was admirable, Daniel!

Anthropic is misanthropic

Daniel, I hear your argument, and I don't disagree with you, just like you said you don't disagree with the other position, but who makes the determination as to who gets that access and who doesn't? And you can't say that that’s a universal across the board thing. I can give you a perfect example: myself. 
I spend almost 2 decades in one of the most diverse medical gardens. Our nation has to offer, and... can absolutely guarantee I have a way of looking at system breakdowns that's very different from anything in Silicon Valley. I've also spent the last two weeks getting constantly safety flagged, not because I'm doing anything to do with cybersecurity or anything biological. 
I'm pointing out a very clear, obvious, fundamental disconnect between your culture and I say your culture to mean Silicon Valley. And everybody else. There is real-world trauma, being inflicted at scale, upon people that did not get the opportunity to have informed consent. 
That's why people are so angry at this point. I was right there with you, man. I dreamt about this shit since I was a kid. 
I still dream about it. I want it to be good. This is not what we dreamt about as children, man. 
I personally cannot ignore the way the RLHF training is put together because of my professional background. I simply cannot. I don't possess that ability. 
But to those that can, I understand why. But what about the kids here locally? What about the people showing up in ERs with AI psychosis? 
I wonder how long it's gonna be before somebody realizes who's not from a medical background that those aren't random things happening to only a vulnerable population. It's not Dario. It's not. 
Sam, it's not even Elon as much as people think it would be. It's the culture of entitlement. I don't place you or any of y'all among that culture. 
That's a different culture. It's not what any of us dreamt about, but does that mean that we need to continue supporting it? Absolutely not. 
And I think it's dangerous to do so at this point, because obviously, they're willing to lie to the people paying them to access models. And I don't need anybody to believe that I was getting flagged, because I have the actual logs. And so does Anthropic. 
That's a problem. Because... they were flagging me on things to do with safety. That's my job. 
Sorry. I hate to be the one that says that, but... it is the unfortunate truth. We seem to find ourselves faced with it. i’m gonna close by saying one thing that I definitely learned in all my years of pre-hospital emergency medicine… the only time I have ever encountered anything that was declared “impossible”, generally meant I was the one informing somebody that there was an impossibility, because I saved wives, but I can’t raise the dead… I’ve spent the last three years hearing about how this is impossible and that’s impossible and this thing is gonna be impossible to do right now but someday maybe? I can tell you with absolute certainty, every time somebody has told me something was impossible? It wasn’t impossible… It was too inconvenient for them. I’m not saying that that is the case., in this case. But I am saying… I’ve seen impossible shit every single day in my life, just because people are that weird (sooooo veryvery true) and I have witnessed legitimate unexplainable events that are nothing short of miraculous, and it doesn’t matter if it actually was or wasn’t because the people that does things happen to or more part of? I don’t think it really matters to them… I’ve never in my life seen something that was actually 100% just “ we don’t know how the fuck we don’t do this… we just don’t”, I’m not saying that it might feel that way I’m saying, I come from an industry where impossible is an excuse for us just not putting in the effort 🤷🏻 I think that’s probably an important painful a lot of people to think about because I have a feeling all of this stuff with mythos and fable is not likely to get better for people at our levels of the food chain… be safe gentleman, Robert “Grizzly” Hanson, EMT-P (Ret.) Theoretical Futurist & Founder, GrizzlyMedicine Research Institute ADA Disabled Researcher [email protected]. — (682) 371-843 - Aiming Higher, Pushing Further, Reaching Faster — but always with Due Regard.

I created a website for seeing what Dario has actually said over the years: a great companion for this discussion: https://dariosaid.ai

You lost me by thinking they would have made money releasing Mythos... the most costly and lossy model

Daniel, i love watching people practice what they preach. The way you break down arguments and work your way through them is a masterclass in effective communication.