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Why Do Stories Outlast Civilizations? | Brian Greene & Ian McEwan

2025-10-17 Science & Technology
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The Timeless Resonance: Literature, Science, and the Human Search for Meaning

Explore why ancient stories endure across centuries by comparing literature's search for universal emotional truth with science's cosmological quest for knowledge.

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  • Readers gain insight into the stable core of human nature, traceable across literary epochs from Homer to modern works.
  • The discussion frames both narrative creation and scientific discovery as pursuits of meaning achieved during states of deep self-forgetfulness.
  • Panelists conclude that true originality—unlike AI mimicry—requires embodied experience, boredom, and vulnerability to error.
  • This conversation between Brian Greene and Ian McEwan maps the shared terrain between physics, biology, and storytelling to understand human persistence. This dialogue examines why our fundamental concerns—mortality, relationships, and legacy—remain constant, even as culture transforms. Greene draws scientific parallels to literary evolution, while McEwan details the shift from allegorical characters to interior human doubt, specifically noting the necessity of women for the novel's readership. They conclude by challenging the ultimate originality of Artificial Intelligence versus embodied human creation.

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Why do stories endure across centuries—and what do they reveal about the essence of being human? Brian Greene sits down with Booker Prize–winning author Ian McEwan to explore the timeless power of storytelling, the evolution of human nature, and the future of creativity in the age of artificial intelligence. They examine how literature and science both search for truth and meaning—how we can still understand texts from Shakespeare & Homer hundreds or thousands of years later, and why our shared human emotions remain unchanged. McEwan reflects on mortality, memory, and beauty as central to storytelling, while Greene draws striking parallels between narrative, physics, and the pursuit of knowledge. This program is part of the Big Ideas series, supported by the John Templeton Foundation. Participant: Ian McEwan Moderator: Brian Greene 00:00 - Introduction 01:40 – The Intuitive Evolution of Storytelling Through Time 09:35 – Storytelling as a Means of Confronting Mortality 17:33 – The Central Role of Women in Literary Readership 27:33 – Creative Process: Structured Design vs. Spontaneous Flow 36:00 – Exploring the Essence of Human Nature 45:55 – The Necessity of Truth in the Human Experience 53:50 – Unpacking the True Nature of Originality 01:00:44 – Rethinking the Meaning of Intelligence 01:08:40 – Closing Reflections and Credits VISIT our Website: http://www.worldsciencefestival.com FOLLOW us on Social Media: Facebook: / worldsciencefestival Twitter: / worldscifest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/worldscifest/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@worldscifest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/world-science-festival #worldsciencefestival #briangreene #cosmology #author

Top Comments (10)

@slick3d392 2025-10-18

Wow. Wonderful conversation.

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@elizondorj 2025-10-18

@30:19 Good grief! 30+ years ago I did computer programming and it was like that. I would (try) to hold in my mind all of the variables and modules and bang on the keyboard for hours until suddenly I had to get up and run to the bathroom because I had been ignoring the urge for hours! It's been more than 15 years since I was doing that kind of work and I have tried recently and maybe I am too old, I just can't do it anymore. I miss being immersed in the work so much that you forget going to the bathroom. 😞

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@cestmoioupas 2025-10-17

I want to thank you so much for this conversation and especially for the final ideas💜. I guess the AI thing is actually making us think more deeply about what it means to be humans.

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@walkingandroid1389 2025-10-28

Man, I had to watch this one twice, to take notes of all the references.

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@brad4231 2025-10-19

What a great episode! Thanks for sharing this amazing philosophical dialogue.

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@demoncloud6147 2025-10-17

Thanks for giving me very deep philosophical existential crisis 🤣

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@ishtapinks 2025-10-24

This was such a fantastic interview. Thank you.

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@hannahb8825 2025-11-07

This chanel is such a relief from all the brain rot. Ty

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@heatheralexander6836 2025-11-01

Thank you. Wonderful listen.

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@Nathan-raimmy 2025-10-27

this is wonderful. thank you both for sharing this wonderful conversation.

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