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Ryan & Emily CLASH w/ Taylor Lorenz On School PHONE BANS

2025-08-27 News & Politics
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Controversy and Consequences of School Cell Phone Bans

Understand the unintended civil liberties implications and potential legislative pitfalls when schools implement broad bans on student cell phones.

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  • Blanket laws may increase interactions between students and police, echoing issues from past 'beeper bans.'
  • Opponents argue these bans distract from addressing root causes of poor mental health and serve as a gateway to broader internet censorship efforts.
  • Educators should focus on cultivating classroom norms or promoting comprehensive data privacy reform instead of sweeping bans. This discussion examines the arguments supporting and opposing legally mandated school cell phone prohibitions. Taylor Lorenz details historical parallels and ongoing civil liberties concerns, while the hosts question the correlation between phone use and declining youth mental health, underscoring the need for teaching technological restraint.

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Top Comments (10)

@MBustos828 2025-08-27

I’m a high school history teacher. We implemented a ban on phones in the classroom last year. The students show up, put their phone in a sleeve in the classroom, and pick it up on the way out. They have them right there in case of an emergency. I have seen a marked improvement in attention span and comprehension. Kids are also more sociable with each other. My AP scores were the best they’ve ever been. I don’t have to spend a couple of minutes every class period forcing students to comply. It was tough at the beginning because the students are quite literally addicted to their phones. Scientists and programmers who make far more money than me get paid to figure out how to keep kids on their phones as long as possible. It has been an amazing change for the better.

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@Blesstheautmn 2025-08-28

Im a teacher. The phone ban is genuinely changing my school for the better. Kids are talking to each other, talking with teachers, better attention spans, WAY more involved in sports and clubs, etc. They might not appreciate it now but they certainly will see it when they’re older. No teenager is making high school memories on a phone all day

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@zckclaf 2025-08-28

Shit IVE had troubles not being stuck doomscrolling through shorts as a 30 year old. I can't imagine the impact this has on children's minds as they develop.

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@TheLotan 2025-08-29

We cannot trust children to self-regulate themselves, we can't even expect adults to do that.

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@Spractral 2025-08-27

You know this is gunna be a stupid argument before it begins.

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@PLAtime365 2025-08-27

Good grief. Kids do not need their phones in school. There is no useful purpose but endless opportunities for distractions let alone the social media bullying that comes from phones ready to record everything

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@giamhecl 2025-08-27

the idea that she’s saying there is “zero correlation to the increase in anxiety in young and phones” with a straight face is the craziest thing i’ve ever seen. do u have a phone and also friends who own phones?

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@kellydeering6717 2025-08-27

As a parent with a high school kid- loving the phone ban!! My daughter is paying better attention in her classes and actually sleeps better at night as well.. plus I’m not getting random text messages from her while I’m at work! Probably the most logical/helpful law our state has passed ever. I don’t care about my kids civil rights when it comes to her phone, and if she doesn’t comply, they should take her phone.. it’s called following rules, something they’ll have to do in the workforce as adults.

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@houstonc9997 2025-08-28

The funniest part is Taylor saying that beepers were before her time 😂

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@weverleywagstaffe8490 2025-08-28

Whenever people say HERE'S THE THING.....I know everything is bullshit

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