Why Aren’t Men’s Issues Being Taken Seriously? - George TheTinMen
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The worst abuse I ever endured came at the hands of my mother. Physical? Occasionally. Mentally and emotionally? Constantly.
I have noticed the men most susceptible to abuse are the "golden retriever energy" type of guys. Coincidentally "golden retriever boyfriends" are all the rage nowadays. Subservient men seem to be rewarded socially, but privately I think it's very common for these men to experience constant disrespect and verbal abuse. I've seen it with MANY friends actually, I wonder if you guys have seen or experienced the same.
I think the issue is framing it as “mens issues” at all. Studies find both men and women feel less empathy for men, and a lot of women seem to fall for the apex fallacy, so when you bring up men’s issues they imagine the minority of particularly successful men and don’t understand why their issues should be focused on. The worst example of this was the “male loneliness crisis”. The attempt seemed to be to try and create empathy for socially isolated men, but women are primarily focused on socially successful men, an isolated man is low value and to be avoided, whenever it’s discussed the comments are flooded with women denying it or mocking it for these reasons.
It's taken me about 30 years, but I've finally realised we are the disposable half of humanity who are neither valued nor appreciated. The only thing you can rely on is yourself, and the only happiness you will ever find is what you carve out with blood and sweat and defend mercilessly. Tell no one your real feelings, as it will only be used against you. If you want loyalty, buy a dog. Your only true equal is another man in the same situation.
Women's organizations aren't towing the line because there is no line to tow. You hear women need help and you naturally believe it and want to help. You hear men need help and think, well did he have a job? Did he break any laws? Is he abusive? Is he w good man? Does he deserve help?
GenX man here... Mother left my real dad when I was real young. I do not remember him he was a good man I was 1 of 3. Mother remarried and I was physically and sexually abused by my step dad. Mom watched and never cared. I tried to seek help at my school telling a counselor my dad hits me. When my step dad found out he beat me hard. I never told any one after that. I left home at 16 but had to deal with my mother at 18 for legal reasons. Turns out my real father left me a trust fund with some substantial money for me. My mother and step-dad were able to take all of it due to hard times. It was BS none of that money ever went to me they used it to buy a boat, vehicles etc. ANY advice I can give men and boys - NO ONE WILL EVER HELP US. No matter how poor, how abused, how depressed you are NO ONE cares. I am now in my late 40s it was true back then and its still true. I am sorry its that way. Get a dog they will be the only thing that will love you till the end.
We had men's spaces but they were taken away. We had a defined place, and role in things. That was taken away. I make do with what I have in my head and a steadfast not giving a shit about protecting my personal space.
Start saying this "Your approval is of no value and your disapproval is of little concern"
Hello Chris: On the subject of men and therapy, Adam Lane Smith on your show, said that most therapists are women and they don't understand what men need in therapy. I am in Sydney Australia and this year I have been mentoring a 13yo boy. The people at the mentoring organisation didn't seem to understand what men need. Have a lovely day.
Hello you savages. Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Here's the timestamps: 00:00 Mental Toughness is Toxic Masculinity 03:11 Movember’s Work on Male Mental Health 11:46 Why is Movember Funding Female Issues? 19:07 Biggest Elephant in the Room in Men’s Issues 22:53 When George Met With the Head of Movember 27:13 Movember’s Anti-Manosphere Campaign 36:03 How Men Find Meaning 43:50 Who Are the Proposed Role Models for Men? 51:57 What is the Conflict Tactics Scale? 54:18 Could the UK Get a Minister for Men? 59:11 What George Wishes Movember Would Do 1:06:38 How Bullying Impacts Boys 1:13:31 The ‘White Guys for Harris’ Campaign 1:16:59 The Future of Men’s Advocacy 1:18:30 Where to Find George
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The worst abuse I ever endured came at the hands of my mother. Physical? Occasionally. Mentally and emotionally? Constantly.
I have noticed the men most susceptible to abuse are the "golden retriever energy" type of guys. Coincidentally "golden retriever boyfriends" are all the rage nowadays. Subservient men seem to be rewarded socially, but privately I think it's very common for these men to experience constant disrespect and verbal abuse. I've seen it with MANY friends actually, I wonder if you guys have seen or experienced the same.
I think the issue is framing it as “mens issues” at all. Studies find both men and women feel less empathy for men, and a lot of women seem to fall for the apex fallacy, so when you bring up men’s issues they imagine the minority of particularly successful men and don’t understand why their issues should be focused on. The worst example of this was the “male loneliness crisis”. The attempt seemed to be to try and create empathy for socially isolated men, but women are primarily focused on socially successful men, an isolated man is low value and to be avoided, whenever it’s discussed the comments are flooded with women denying it or mocking it for these reasons.
It's taken me about 30 years, but I've finally realised we are the disposable half of humanity who are neither valued nor appreciated. The only thing you can rely on is yourself, and the only happiness you will ever find is what you carve out with blood and sweat and defend mercilessly. Tell no one your real feelings, as it will only be used against you. If you want loyalty, buy a dog. Your only true equal is another man in the same situation.
Women's organizations aren't towing the line because there is no line to tow. You hear women need help and you naturally believe it and want to help. You hear men need help and think, well did he have a job? Did he break any laws? Is he abusive? Is he w good man? Does he deserve help?
GenX man here... Mother left my real dad when I was real young. I do not remember him he was a good man I was 1 of 3. Mother remarried and I was physically and sexually abused by my step dad. Mom watched and never cared. I tried to seek help at my school telling a counselor my dad hits me. When my step dad found out he beat me hard. I never told any one after that. I left home at 16 but had to deal with my mother at 18 for legal reasons. Turns out my real father left me a trust fund with some substantial money for me. My mother and step-dad were able to take all of it due to hard times. It was BS none of that money ever went to me they used it to buy a boat, vehicles etc. ANY advice I can give men and boys - NO ONE WILL EVER HELP US. No matter how poor, how abused, how depressed you are NO ONE cares. I am now in my late 40s it was true back then and its still true. I am sorry its that way. Get a dog they will be the only thing that will love you till the end.
We had men's spaces but they were taken away. We had a defined place, and role in things. That was taken away. I make do with what I have in my head and a steadfast not giving a shit about protecting my personal space.
Start saying this "Your approval is of no value and your disapproval is of little concern"
Hello Chris: On the subject of men and therapy, Adam Lane Smith on your show, said that most therapists are women and they don't understand what men need in therapy. I am in Sydney Australia and this year I have been mentoring a 13yo boy. The people at the mentoring organisation didn't seem to understand what men need. Have a lovely day.
Hello you savages. Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Here's the timestamps: 00:00 Mental Toughness is Toxic Masculinity 03:11 Movember’s Work on Male Mental Health 11:46 Why is Movember Funding Female Issues? 19:07 Biggest Elephant in the Room in Men’s Issues 22:53 When George Met With the Head of Movember 27:13 Movember’s Anti-Manosphere Campaign 36:03 How Men Find Meaning 43:50 Who Are the Proposed Role Models for Men? 51:57 What is the Conflict Tactics Scale? 54:18 Could the UK Get a Minister for Men? 59:11 What George Wishes Movember Would Do 1:06:38 How Bullying Impacts Boys 1:13:31 The ‘White Guys for Harris’ Campaign 1:16:59 The Future of Men’s Advocacy 1:18:30 Where to Find George