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MAGA’s Grievance Machine Runs on Hating America (w/ Bill Kristol) | The Bulwark Podcast

2025-10-20 News & Politics
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Analyzing the "No Kings" Protests, Trump's Authoritarian Tendencies, and Shifting Political Alliances

Discover why the massive "No Kings" protests showed unexpected resilience and sobriety, contrasting sharply with the Trump administration's inflammatory response and ongoing geopolitical dealings.

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  • Massive turnout for the "No Kings" protests demonstrated significant citizen mobilization, marked by an encouraging mix of joy and serious concern.
  • The Trump administration immediately attempted to undermine the demonstrations by labeling peaceful participants as terrorists and radicals.
  • Reporting indicates Donald Trump continues to favor authoritarian leaders globally at the expense of democratic allies like Ukraine.
  • High-level Republican operatives, like Miles Bruner, are publicly severing ties, classifying their past roles as becoming accomplices.

The hosts dissect the nationwide "No Kings" demonstrations, analyzing the participants' character and the GOP's attempt to smear them. They pivot to the administration's concerning foreign policy alignments—including concessions to Putin and highly questionable immigration deals—and review internal GOP defections, providing insight into resistance against the current political status quo.

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Nearly seven million Americans peacefully took to the streets out of their love for this country, and Trump in response acted out like a toddler obsessed with own poop. Indeed, our commander-in-chief really does have more affinity for the Sharia law dictators in the sand kingdoms than he does for Saturday's true patriots. This may be the moment when the Dems and its allies take the patriotism banner back from Republicans. Plus, the lengths the administration went to imprison immigrants in El Salvador, the Dem base wants a fight over the shutdown, and Trump keeps serving up reasons why the Trump/Russia conspiracy has survived for so long. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. show notes Miles Bruner's Bulwark piece on leaving the GOP https://www.thebulwark.com/p/my-last-day-as-an-accomplice-of-the-republican-party-miles-bruner?r=af2rj&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Jon Cohn on the Americans caught in the shutdown vice https://www.thebulwark.com/p/actual-human-beings-caught-in-shutdown-vise-aca-obamacare-subsidies?r=af2rj&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false The FT on the volatile Trump-Zelensky meeting last week https://on.ft.com/3WMSQSu Bill and Sarah on a successful "No Kings" https://www.thebulwark.com/p/no-kings-was-a-success-what-comes?r=af2rj&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Save more than 50% on term life insurance at SelectQuote.com/BULWARK to get started. Go to https://zbiotics.com/THEBULWARK and use THEBULWARK at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join

Top Comments (10)

@ShannonColeman-sp3gh 2025-10-20

Black people, but let me just speak for myself as a black woman, I am not willing to be in the streets because I truly believe that will be the pretext for the administration to unleash the violence. We need white voices, so THANK YOU! We are all impacted by this implosion of our democracy, but this country has routinely projected that they value some voices over others. So I’m leaning in and again, THANK YOU!!💙💪🏾🇺🇸

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@jaimepatena7372 2025-10-20

7-8 million and no violence or arrests! We are peaceful an not afraid..and not violent.

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@ceruleanserpent387 2025-10-20

I never thought I'd tune into Bill Kristol weekly but here I am, a woke gay veteran listening to Bill Kristol!

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@aprildriesslein5034 2025-10-20

The counter-protesters at my small town's protest decided to try to rile people by shouting "USA! USA!" They were somewhat bemused when the whole rest of the crowd took it up. 😅

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@TimEngbergSongs 2025-10-20

I saw one crank and he was driving thru the crowd with a trump hat…..the crowd laughed but no anger at him….everyone was friendly and determined that people be 😊heard and discussed things..it was eye opening to see so many people agreeing…no more bunkers. We need to get out more

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@AlsoSal 2025-10-21

The “hate America” rhetoric definitely helped turn people out. My son was maybe not going to go until the govt told him not to. He’s like “that’s when you’ve gotta go and catch the government lying to you.”

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@therealgraywülf 2025-10-20

My sign on Saturday in Portland said: Trump Hates America.

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@carlavancleave4676 2025-10-21

When I heard the stupid utterances by Johnson and Scalise accusing protesters even before they marched, I couldn’t help but think back to what a shitfit they all pitched when Hillary called some of them deplorables.

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@scrubjay93 2025-10-21

The boat bombings really upset me. God only knows who these folks are and how much they suffer when hit. It's a terrorism by the USA and seems completely unhinged.

42 3 replies
@AnthonyFrancis-d9f 2025-10-21

Patriots versus Poopers. This is the new divide in the US.

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