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Is Hollywood covering up UFO truths? | Reality Check

2026-03-24 News & Politics
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In this episode of Reality Check, Ross Coulthart sits down with Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman, the co-creators of "Dark Skies" and the new investigative podcast "Sound, Light and Frequency," to explore the alleged hidden relationship between Hollywood, the Pentagon, Naval Intelligence, the CIA, UFOs, UAPs and government secrecy. Bryce and Brent recount a remarkable story: After launching "Dark Skies" in 1996, they say they were approached by a man claiming to be from the Office of Naval Intelligence, who suggested they had “gotten a lot right” and wanted to help shape what went into the show. They also revisit the mysterious piece of paper said to contain the “secret of the universe.” Guests: Bryce Zabel, Host, 'Sound, Light & Frequency' Brent Friedman, Host, 'Sound, Light & Frequency' Credits: Host: Ross Coulthart Executive Producer: Andy Gipson Editorial Producer: Meagan Medick Segment Producer: Christine Jenkinson Associate Producer: Will Tomasi Editor: Allen Keefner On "Reality Check," NewsNation Special Correspondent Ross Coulthart takes a fact-based approach to tackle everything from unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) to mysteries often missing from the headlines. More Reality Check: https://www.newsnationnow.com/podcasts-newsnation/reality-check-with-ross-coulthart/ Email your questions to [email protected] NewsNation is your source for fact-based, unbiased news for all Americans. More from NewsNation: https://www.newsnationnow.com/ Get our app: https://trib.al/TBXgYpp Find us on your screen: https://www.joinnn.com/ Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:06 Ross welcomes Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman 00:23 The premise of Dark Skies: history is a lie 01:17 What is Sound, Light and Frequency? 04:33 Is Hollywood being manipulated by intelligence agencies? 06:52 The mysterious “secret of the universe” paper 07:34 The alleged Naval Intelligence approach at the Dark Skies launch 11:07 “That’s not how it’s done” — the alien possession claim 14:15 Did Bryce and Brent accept the offer? 15:07 How the “sound, light and frequency” note was written 17:34 How the lost paper was finally recovered 22:06 What does the symbol or formula actually mean? 24:32 Was this proof of government meddling in Hollywood? 27:54 Brent’s story about John Herrington 32:24 “I used to cry myself to sleep every night” 33:37 “Aliens are real, they’re here, and I’ve seen them” 35:34 Would disclosure really cause ontological shock? 38:20 Was the alien secret only “day three” of a much bigger truth? 40:18 Has John Herrington ever spoken further? 42:35 What truth was so dark it caused fear for family? 43:57 Trump, transparency, and whether history is a lie 47:21 Majestic 12 and the idea of a control group 50:25 Examples of Hollywood manipulation and military cooperation 51:29 Independence Day and Area 51 53:01 Another director allegedly approached by an intelligence agency 54:40 CIA-Hollywood influence and Chase Brandon 57:12 Toby Hooper, Spielberg, and Close Encounters 59:21 Project Serpo and the Spielberg connection 01:02:04 Spielberg’s Disclosure Day and what it may reveal 01:04:45 Alien hybrids and the fear narrative 01:05:34 Final thoughts on disclosure, catastrophe, and the future 01:07:19 Closing remarks

Top Comments (10)

@veerlevantricht9614 2026-03-24

The best interview of the year with the best guests, thank you Ross🙏

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@Morten-dx7tx 2026-03-24

The way they are so happy to be speaking on this, finishing each other stories, leaning in to the camera, relaxed etc. these guys are definitely telling the truth as they know it to be

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@alexmontay 2026-03-25

Plot twist: Ross is a secret Nordic Alien that is trying to help humanity in disclosure.

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@bsa250 2026-03-25

I was glued to this discussion, having seen Dark Skies on TV when it came out and followed it faithfully until it was suddenly off the air. I heard that the reason it was taken off was that it was too realistic and truthful.

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@richardturner1382 2026-03-25

Love to see Ross and Bryce together again. Nostalgic.

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@mariojager43 2026-03-24

They always tell you in the movies. Hide information in plain sight. Ridicule a subject in a sci-fi movie plot to make it unbelievable, because it was in a movie. Tactical intelligence tactic to bury information.

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@bageeru927 2026-03-24

Every once in a while there comes a Reality Check episode like this one where the interviewees are such a good fit that I get deja vu

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@shawnmclean2338 2026-03-25

This totally blew my mind! I don't know whether I'm excited about what I've learned (and I certainly am) or if I feel like breaking down in tears at what lies ahead of us when it all comes out. Wow😮

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@PhilipMcCartney-pq8fs 2026-03-24

Fascinating subject and well told. It's refreshing to listen to smart conversation

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@rbmedd 2026-03-25

Well done, gentlemen. Well done. Guess we'll have to "stay tuned" to see if something wonderful happens.

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