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Sam Harris: How To Change Your Mind

2026-05-24 Science & Technology
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Sam Harris on why meditation tells you nothing about the Big Bang — but everything about why you're suffering. In this segment, the neuroscientist and creator of the Waking Up app draws the cleanest line I've heard between the contemplative tradition's first-person discoveries and the metaphysical inflation that usually rides on top of them. He breaks publicly with Deepak Chopra on exactly where that line sits. What we cover: - Why "levels of consciousness" is the wrong frame, and what changes when you switch to contents - The optic-blind-spot analogy for finding the self — a falsifiable experiment you can run on yourself - The difference between changing what you think about and changing the witness that thinks - Why nearly every state of psychological suffering is anchored to a sense of self that disappears under inspection - Where Harris parts company with Chopra on what meditative experience can and cannot tell you about the cosmos - The claim that wisdom is nothing more profound than the ability to take your own advice The argument matters because it's empirically tractable. Either the felt sense of "I" survives close phenomenological inspection or it doesn't. Run the experiment. Sam Harris is a neuroscientist, philosopher, five-time New York Times bestselling author, and creator of the Waking Up app: https://www.wakingup.com, It's my 'operating system for the mind' that I use every day [unsponsored!] He hosts the Making Sense podcast: https://www.samharris.org Brian's Substack — full transcript, bonus material, and the Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: https://briankeating.substack.com/ Brian's books and reading list: https://briankeating.com Timestamps: 00:00 Why You Can’t Find Your Brain 01:03 The Mystery of Consciousness 03:08 Wisdom Is Taking Your Own Advice 05:18 Meditation Isn’t Self-Improvement 07:06 Where Sam Harris Breaks From Deepak Chopra 09:10 You Are the Universe Seeing Itself 12:31 The Meditation Experiment That Changes Everything 15:00 What Happens When the Self Disappears ——— 📬 Get the transcript, fascinating bonus content, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message: https://briankeating.com/yt 🌠 Have a .edu email and live in the USA 🇺🇸? You automatically win a meteorite: https://BrianKeating.com/edu 🔔 Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating?sub_confirmation=1 🎯 Support Into the Impossible on Patreon — get my weekly M.A.G.I.C. Message, unfiltered bonus content, and live monthly Office Hours with me: https://www.patreon.com/drbriankeating ⭐ Join this channel for perks, monthly Office Hours, and your name in the Member Roster at the end of every episode: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmXH_moPhfkqCk6S3b9RWuw/join 📚 My books: Losing the Nobel Prize (memoir): http://amzn.to/2sa5UpA Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/03ezQFu Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://a.co/d/hi50U9U Galileo's Dialogue (first-ever audiobook): https://a.co/d/iZPi9Un 🌐 More: 🏄‍♂️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrBrianKeating 📚 Substack https://briankeating.substack.com/ss ✍️ Blog: https://briankeating.com/blog 🎙️ Audio-only: https://briankeating.com/podcast #intotheimpossible #briankeating #science #physics #astronomy #cosmology #podcast #universe

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@DrBrianKeating 2026-05-23

🧘 The claim is bigger than it sounds at first: virtually all psychological suffering is anchored to a self that doesn't survive close inspection. Steel-man: most people will say of course the self is real — they can feel it sitting somewhere behind the eyes, riding around in the body, the unchanging witness of changing experience. That phenomenology is universal and ancient. It's the data. Sam's pushback: it's also the optic blind spot. The data is universal until you perform the right experiment, and then the absence becomes uncontroversial. The freedom from self isn't a metaphysical claim — it's a falsifiable one. Look closely enough, you stop finding it. Stop finding it, the anger and the regret and the rumination lose their anchor. 📬 Newsletter, full transcript, and my Monday M.A.G.I.C. Message → https://briankeating.substack.com/ If he's right, the implication isn't trivial — most of psychiatry has been treating contents, not the witness. Where would a skeptical scientist look for the false negative? How would you tell the difference between no self was found and something was found but you mislabeled it? 🔔 Full episode → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4tqgsuvgkw?sub_confirmation=1

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@evanplante 2026-05-24

Sam does a good job explaining some rarified things!

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@paulc96 2026-05-25

Thanks Dr. Brian, for this interview with one of my favourite authors. Sam is one of the great intellectuals of our time. Along with the brilliant Christopher Hitchens, (RIP). And the marvellous Dr. Brian Keating, of course !! 😄

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@Mentaculus42 2026-05-24

0:29 You inspired me to look further into this quote by Einstein. It appears to actually have never been said by Einstein. Historians and archivists at the Einstein Archives have found no documented evidence that he ever used the word "consciousness" in this context. The original, authenticated quote that inspired this modernized paraphrase is: "We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." In another context he said: "A new type of thinking is essential if mankind is to survive and move toward higher levels." These days it seems that the word "consciousness" has become a hot topic and seems to have developed additional connotations and a particular spin in the popular scientific media. Personally I am just more confused.

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@oliviahodges5161 2026-05-24

man's mind 📖 can't comprehend

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@user-sn9gv1fi2k 2026-05-25

“You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.” ― Marcus Aurelius

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@jgarciajr82 2026-05-26

Sam's talking about bypassing emotions when you get good at meditating. Meditation is only the beginning. Going through your emotions and listening to your body is the big game and the alignment you're missing.

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@davidcasper4825 2026-05-25

Who is doing the looking?

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@johnjacquard863 2026-05-26

up and out.. but then down and in!

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@robertmarley-I 2026-05-25

Just because your search hasn’t turned up the gold others speak of doesn’t make its existence any less real, it only means the ground you’ve been digging in isn’t where it lies.

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