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Matt O’Dowd’s Favorite Object in the Universe

2026-06-23 Science & Technology
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T-Mobile 5G Home Internet. https://T-Mobile.com/HomeInternet Did the Milky Way used to be a quasar? On this episode, Neil deGrasse Tyson and comic co-host Chuck Nice explore quasars, the high energy universe, and the movie we’re making of the night’s sky with astrophysicist & host of PBS Space Time, Matt O’Dowd. Order Take Me to Your Leader here 👇 https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Take-Me-to-Your-Leader/Neil-deGrasse-Tyson/9781668249970 Why wasn’t the Milky Way massive enough to be a true quasar? The trio breaks down the history of quasars exploring how these pinpricks of light liberate insane amounts of kinetic energy through the raw friction of gas falling into supermassive black holes. How will big data change how we view the cosmos? Neil and Matt trace the evolution of X-ray astronomy before shifting gears to the mind-bending role of gravitational lenses. You'll learn how these galactic funhouse mirrors create cosmic time machines, allowing us to view the exact same quasar at different points in time. How will big data change how we view the cosmos? With the Vera Rubin Observatory recently achieving first light, how is the frontier being impacted by AI? Can variational autoencoders help us map the inner regions of a quasar, or will pattern-recognition templates cause AI to only see what we expect it to find? Neil freaks out over the varying patterns caused by moving stars. What do we lose when computers replace the grunt work of galaxy classification and spherical trig? Are future generations doomed to just vibecode into a black box? Finally, we explore how the Rubin Observatory will capture 40 times the Hubble field of view to create a continuous, 10-year movie of the night sky. Plus, Neil reflects on why people are far more likely to become scientists than professional athletes, the viral success of PBS Space Time, and why true science is about mastering tools of thought rather than just memorizing a syllabus. Thanks to our Patrons Alex Nuche, Christian Payne, Gage Ewing, Ryan Whynot, Temirlan, 2 Lives Left, Chad Keeler, Harli Shae Smith, Brad Smith, Norm Bailey, James Peterson, Ryan Coppens, David Whittenberg, Scott Jarboe, Varun Krishnan, Eric Salinas, Mary Seman, Melissa Davis, Stephen Rockwell, Catrina, Max Wilburn, keith Koenigsberg, LEIII, Vincent Loniello, Simon Toth, DoctorWaterGod, Ruthanne Nava, Martineau Alex, Matthew, Phil, Jaden, Arik Drori, Papersneaker, Steven Peeters, Trey Durango, Julianne, Robbie James, Jason Foreman, Liam, Steven Van Vleet, Marilyn, Zakk Why, Ben Wheeldon, Erik Leazure, KONAL SHARMA, Dušan Živanović, Erik Strandberg, berklie novak-stolz, Kazi Mahin Mahfuz, Tim Van Devender, Andrew Martin, Jason F, Charles Joubert, Youcef Kazwiny, Joy Joslyn, Freeman, Jessica, Pat, Phillip Brooks, Michael Hues, Jacqueline Sinclair, Robert Marsh, Botas, Raza Naqvi (Sid), Jake Colón, Christine Bartholomew & Family, Mr Xoot, Dyonté Houston, Daryl, Rob Weiss, Caleb Holmes, Jeffrey Luce, Kellie Owczarczak, and Brandt Reppond for supporting us this week. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: Matt O’Dowd 03:28 - What Are Quasars? 04:40 - The Latest on Quasars 15:18 - Breaking Down Gravitational Lensing 21:17 - The Most Distant Objects in the Universe 24:02 - Finding Lensed Quasars with AI 31:50 - Will AI Replace Grad Students? 39:42 - TOO MUCH DATA 44:19 - Comparing Science Communication Notes Check out our second channel, @StarTalkPlus Get the latest StarTalk book, 'To Infinity and Beyond: A Journey of Cosmic Discovery' on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3PL0NFn Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/startalkradio FOLLOW or SUBSCRIBE to StarTalk: Twitter: http://twitter.com/startalkradio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StarTalk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startalk About StarTalk: Science meets pop culture on StarTalk! Astrophysicist & Hayden Planetarium director Neil deGrasse Tyson, his comic co-hosts, guest celebrities & scientists discuss astronomy, physics, and everything else about life in the universe. Keep Looking Up! #StarTalk #NeildeGrasseTyson

Top Comments (10)

@christophermacdonald7012 2026-06-23

PBS Spacetime was the rabbithole that I fell down over 10 years ago, through which I eventually started watching star talk. So Grateful to Matt O'Down and the PBS spacetime production crew for everything they do, so excited to see him here talking with NDT

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@axay229 2026-06-23

It's Matt! PBS Spacetime and Star Talk might be the only two channels I watch religiously(heh) these days.

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@LSA30 2026-06-23

Yes Matt! The collab we NEEDED!

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@peteredwards2318 2026-06-23

I love that Lord Nice GETS it, the same way the regular viewer gets it. You can see him making connections as the cast goes on. Its always great to see someone else having the reactions I do when learning and connecting data together.

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@algoja83 2026-06-23

I'll echo Chuck on the note he made at minute 51:01. This generation of science communicators is undoubtedly bringing science so close to us in such an enjoyable fashion! Thank you all for your time and efforts to make this possible and available for all of us!

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@wtfbbq 2026-06-23

Absolutely love Matt O’Dowd... I think he's severely underutilized for community outreach and being one of the 'faces' of physics and cosmology... he's got a great presence; he explains things in an understandable way, he has the smarts and background knowledge to really know and understand what he's talking about, not to mention he's chill and good looking... plus he's a legit scientist, in an area where a lot of community 'science exposure' is done by people 'reporting' on science yet are not actually scientists themselves, so he can field questions and actually knows the answers. Definitely enjoyed this collab and hope to see more of Matt in the future!

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@w7mjr 2026-06-24

We love PBS Space Time! The series doesn't shy away from more advanced concepts. We hoped to meet Matt at Black Rock Observatory on the Playa in 2012(?) but he was away from the scope when we wandered by one night. What I really wanted to say, however, is how much I appreciate Chuck co-hosting on StarTalk. He really blows me away with his insights and analogies during the interviews (and keen sense of humor too).

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@iamdanderson1 2026-06-24

50:34 as a 6'8" former basketball player, I always knew I wanted to be an electrical engineer and I did it! People would tell me I could play in the NBA and I was really really good, but I knew that there are only 300 players in the NBA and the number of people that are 6'8" is actually still a huge number lol glad I got my degree and because I got that degree and learned all the physics and math that comes along with it, it allows me to understand PBS spacetime and Neil more easily. Love you guys

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@TweetyCJ88 2026-06-24

"You make science like basketball" -The truest statement of the episode provided by Lord Nice ❤

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@AngelGuidetti 2026-06-24

Chuck making the point about making science like basketball and seeing both Neil and Matt stop and realise for 5 seconds. The best part of the video. I loved it so much.

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