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Is California A Warning For The Rest Of The Country? | Will Swaim #473 | The Way I Heard It

2026-03-05 Entertainment
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Mike Rowe
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California is one of the richest places on earth—so why does it feel like so many things aren’t working? I welcome Will Swaim, CEO of the California Policy Center, back on my podcast to talk about what’s driving the state’s biggest headaches—from the cost of living and energy policy to homelessness spending, regulation, and the ripple effects of decisions made decades ago. While one of the wealthiest states in the country, California is also a place where the cost of living keeps rising, businesses keep leaving, and the gap between intention and outcome seems to get wider every year. How did we get here, and why is persuasion harder than ever? We all want the same basic things—safe communities, affordable energy, decent schools, and a fair shot at building a life. The trouble starts when the policies designed to deliver those things wind up doing the opposite. Along the way, Will and I chat about a few of the policies shaping life in the Golden State, the unintended consequences that followed, and what the rest of the country might want to pay attention to before adopting the same ideas. If you live in California—or if you’re wondering whether what’s happening there might show up where you live next—this one’s worth a listen. #podcast #california #government My foundation is awarding millions of dollars in work ethic scholarships to men and women willing to learn a skilled trade. Apply now at: https://bit.ly/mrwscholarships If you like me, and even if you don't, subscribe to my channels and follow me. Much obliged. https://www.youtube.com/@therealmikerowe https://www.youtube.com/@therealmikeroweshorts https://www.youtube.com/@PYSKshow http://instagram.com/mikerowe http://facebook.com/TheRealMikeRowe https://twitter.com/mikeroweworks 00:00 What is really going on in California? 04:21 Why are people leaving? 09:50 Gas prices all over the nation 12:08 Unions and political campaigns 18:30 California’s high speed rail 22:35 Our failed educational system 25:28 Who is responsible for this mess? 29:36 The laws restricting our businesses 38:44 What will it take for us to leave? 39:31 Why Congress didn’t stand 46:31 My take on Congress 51:43 Why it should be unacceptable to be boring 58:54 Bring back consequences

Top Comments (10)

@karenpeck4418 2026-03-05

California is so beautiful, it’s so sad that people who have built the state are being run out of the state

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@IsaiahMJones69 2026-03-05

Mike Rowe you are a National Treasure. For the last 25years of my life you have been an inspiration.

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@lisaholtzclaw4947 2026-03-06

MAKE CONSEQUENCES GREAT AGAIN, especially in states like California.

241 12 replies
@anngleason9701 2026-03-06

Newsom will do what he's done to CA to the rest of the country.

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@marshall4759 2026-03-05

I have 4 friends who are lifelong Californians 3rd or 4th generation who swore they would never leave. They are all looking at moving this year.

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@girthyguitarist 2026-03-07

I left 2.5 years ago. Born and raised there and I had family there dating back to the Mexican-American war. I made a good six figure income but I couldn’t fund a state that is steeling from its citizens. My kids had no future there due to costs. A studio apartment was $2,000 and going up. Gas was $6 the summer before I left. I was paying $650 electric in the summer to run my AC and $350 in the winter for gas heat. I now live in the Midwest with humid heat and freezing winters and my energy costs are half or less. I have 3x the house and the price was 40% less than my CA home (which has lost value since I left too). California always had its problems but Gavin Newsom single handedly ruined the state for people who aren’t multimillionaires and those people are leaving now too!

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@roblangsdorf8758 2026-03-10

The teachers union in California has been protecting incompetent teachers from being fired for over half a century.

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@garyjay9639 2026-03-17

Newsom should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office, because if, does that's it for the USA!! He is Evil and Duranged !!

76 5 replies
@bordenbell7596 2026-03-20

Have Will Swaim back soon !! Excellent ! The best !

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@25kmgb 2026-03-25

Wow Mike what an insightful discussion with an informative, well spoken, thoughtful guest!

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