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If All Is Love, What About Evil? Leo Gura, DemystifySci #404

2026-02-25 Entertainment
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In Part 2 of our conversation with Leo Gura, the discussion moves from abstract truth into the territory most people avoid: morality, evil, love, and survival. If everything is one, what becomes of good and bad? If reality is infinite consciousness, are our moral systems discoveries or inventions shaped by fear and self-preservation? The episode wrestles with whether absolute truth dissolves morality or reveals a deeper foundation beneath it, and what it would mean to live from that realization without collapsing into nihilism. Part 1: https://youtu.be/rLYFHXf1xXU PATREON https://www.patreon.com/c/demystifysci PARADOX LOST PRE-SALE: https://buy.stripe.com/7sY7sKdoN5d29eUdYddEs0b HOMEBREW MUSIC - Check out our new album! Hard Copies (Vinyl): FREE SHIPPING https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/products/vinyl-lp-secretary-of-nature-everything-is-so-good-here Streaming: https://secretaryofnature.bandcamp.com/album/everything-is-so-good-here PARADIGM DRIFT https://demystifysci.com/paradigm-drift-show 00:00 Go! 00:03:55 Good, Bad, and Absolute Ontology 00:06:17 Stages of Moral Development 00:09:41 Expanding the Self to Infinity 00:12:03 Relative vs Absolute Morality 00:17:24 Accountability Within Oneness 00:21:35 Law, Consent, and Moral Relativism 00:27:22 When Love Becomes Naive 00:30:24 Survival Corrupts Pure Ideas 00:33:02 Radical Open-Mindedness 00:37:13 Good and Evil as Human Constructs 00:42:01 Can Evil Exist Ontologically? 00:46:16 Trauma, Awakening, and Survival 00:51:10 Jesus, Suffering, and Infinite Love 00:55:06 Ontology of Love and Infinity 00:59:05 Infinity, God, and Absolute Reality 01:06:40 Unity in Nature and Daily Life 01:11:18 Integration and Practical Awakening 01:16:23 Consciousness Beyond Humanity 01:19:41 Immortality Through Infinity 01:21:20 Closing Reflections and Invitation #Nonduality, #Consciousness, #Awakening, #AbsoluteTruth, #PhilosophyOfMind, #MoralPhilosophy, #InfiniteLove, #SelfInquiry, #SpiritualAwakening, #TruthSeeking, #PhilosophicalDebate, #skepticism , #physicspodcast, #philosophypodcast MERCH: Rock some DemystifySci gear : https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/ AMAZON: Do your shopping through this link: https://amzn.to/3YyoT98 DONATE: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD SUBSTACK: https://substack.com/@UCqV4_7i9h1_V7hY48eZZSLw@demystifysci RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss MAILING LIST: https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

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@DemystifySci_Podcast 2026-02-25

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@ActualizedOrg 2026-02-27

Thanks ya'll for the kind comments. Much enjoyed and hope to see you again. In the meantime, keep dreaming.

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@jonlaurin 2026-02-28

I wish he did more interviews like this. His episodes are profound and all, but hearing him bounce these insights off others is pure gold. I always want him to go deeper, explain more of what he means. I’ve been doing this work for 15 years and I feel like I’m so close yet so far away. Every time he begins to explain love or infinity I completely understand what he’s saying, but I want more. Thanks for having him on I was really hoping for a part 3.

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@mjones410 2026-02-28

Leo's completely free Spiral Dynamics course is the bomb :)

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@earthlingslens 2026-02-25

“The greatest Love seems indifferent.” ~ Lao Tzu ☯️

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@Farid-Abbasi 2026-06-02

I'm an old follower of Leo's work and philosophy including deep psychedelic probes and that's the reason of watching This interview. But I have also found both of the Hosts of This program extremely intelligent and knowledgeable and at the same time so articulate. Amazing podcast. This is my first time listening to you guys. Keep it up ! For Leo he always amazes me. He contributed quite a lot to my knowledge. His trade Mark monologues, but Leo ... .❤

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@danielrdgz10 2026-05-15

What a master Leo Gura is. Reaching those levels of awareness would take tremendous amounts of work. Amazing information, thank you.

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@mybeachsites 2026-05-04

Excellent seeing and hearing from Leo Gura on your podcast.

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@AlinSabo 2026-03-03

Thank you guys for inviting Leo(Or if he self invited, thank you for allowing him to be on the show) i've been one of his subscribers for many years. And I'm so happy to see a deep conversation That we can all learn from. Congrats with the podcast

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@adityaitagi 2026-03-01

I could sense Leo's frustration but he managed it quite beautifully. It is really hard to explain the gravitas of what Leo actually means. Layers on layers and semantic differences really make it challenging. After a couple of years of trying to understand what he is actually saying, I'm so happy that I get what he is pointing towards and why what he is talking about can only be pointed towards, how only experientially one can understand the gravitas of Infinity. Great sequel nonetheless. Really eager to talk to Leo about certain aspects of it. Hopefully I can make it happen! Lots of Love ♥

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