Tim Miller Can't Stop Talking About Giorgia Meloni (w/ Bill Kristol) | Bulwark Podcast

Trump is so embarrassed by his own personal vandalism of the Reflecting Pool that he's got the Justice Department investigating his latest conspiracy about bad guys that don't exist. Of course Fox News is happy to oblige by menacing journalists who dared to report on the damage POTUS did to the national monument. Meanwhile, Vance's Catholic conversion story is almost more fake than Trump's tough stance against the Iranian regime. Plus, Tulsi has been under the sway of a cult leader, Italy's Meloni is a pleasant surprise, Brexit was stupid and ruined the political careers of British prime ministers, and the World Cup is the perfect patriotic antidote to Trumpism. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller. One thing to pack, five ways to power! Get up to 40% off @Ridge during their Father’s Day Sale at https://www.Ridge.com/THEBULWARK #Ridgepod Show Notes: Monday's "Morning Shots": https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwark/p/americas-kiddie-pool-authoritarian-reflecting-mall-green-paint-iran-negotiations-memorandum-understanding-hormuz-nuclear-inspectors-world-cup-brexit-starmer?r=af2rj&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Tim's and JVL's live reading from Vance's new book: https://youtu.be/30uF-A8yF8U Clip from Douthat's interview with JD: https://x.com/atrupar/status/2067626377994506700?s=20 George Packer's piece, "The Talented Mr. Vance": https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/07/jd-vance-reinvention-power/682828/?gift=AO0MhSsTDaHgiP_RxFGfBzMYfICmDI0PZ4vspBv3UIY&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share Jon Swaine's reporting on Tulsi: https://wapo.st/4enjQBR Become a Bulwark Youtube Plus Member here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG4Hp1KbGw4e02N7FpPXDgQ/join Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction & The Reflecting Pool Disaster 00:07:07 - Iran Strait of Hormuz & Vance's Failed Diplomacy 00:14:07 - Ad Break 00:15:44 - Fox News Spin on the Iran Deal 00:19:31 - JD Vance's Book & the Ross Douthat Interview 00:28:19 - Is Everything About JD Vance Fake? 00:33:32 - Tulsi Gabbard's Cult Leader Exposed 00:37:03 - UK Politics: Brexit's Legacy & Starmer's Fall 00:41:22 - Italy's Meloni vs. Trump 00:47:25 - Latin American Elections & Rising Instability 00:49:48 - World Cup & American Social Cohesion