Gemini 3.5 FLASH: BAD to OUTSTANDING
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Top Comments (10)
Thanks! This content is very useful.
curious if the trace shows an actual causal model or just iterative patching until something sticks
Impressive! Why keep the web search enabled though? It doesn't really matter for your custom prompt and it didn't use the web according to the trace, but still.
Regarding the discussion about grounding: would it not be clear within the reasoning trace if it were referencing Google search or particular tool calls that would have access to YouTube transcripts? I think it’s very exciting that this model happened upon the answer so quickly.
It would be interesting to know in 3 independent attempts how it would do.
You can also use it in flex mode and that cuts the price in 1/2
Grounding with Google Search should be disabled. It could be using YouTube previous videos.
I do love the way when RL became as clear as the semantic nature of the answers. Whatever the LLM results to your prompt. Have you ever try any gradual approach ? Easy ways, i think you will manage 😊 NB: about CoT... you know it has nothing to do with the real "thinking" . You reveal the trick, now explain the magic ?
Thank you for jumping on this model so quickly.I have to agree with some of the other commenters -- grounding should have been turned off, especially given the jump to 8 steps -- perhaps it's no coincidence that the flash model got exactly the best answer that happened to be only reached by its sibling model. It would be very interesting to see this test run again with grounding turned off. Indeed I asked the flash model and it said it should be turned off "otherwise it allows the model to look up the exact test question, find existing answer keys or leaked solutions online and simply copy the results."
it's basically "not giving up" strategy, interesting...
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Top Comments (10)
Thanks! This content is very useful.
curious if the trace shows an actual causal model or just iterative patching until something sticks
Impressive! Why keep the web search enabled though? It doesn't really matter for your custom prompt and it didn't use the web according to the trace, but still.
Regarding the discussion about grounding: would it not be clear within the reasoning trace if it were referencing Google search or particular tool calls that would have access to YouTube transcripts? I think it’s very exciting that this model happened upon the answer so quickly.
It would be interesting to know in 3 independent attempts how it would do.
You can also use it in flex mode and that cuts the price in 1/2
Grounding with Google Search should be disabled. It could be using YouTube previous videos.
I do love the way when RL became as clear as the semantic nature of the answers. Whatever the LLM results to your prompt. Have you ever try any gradual approach ? Easy ways, i think you will manage 😊 NB: about CoT... you know it has nothing to do with the real "thinking" . You reveal the trick, now explain the magic ?
Thank you for jumping on this model so quickly.I have to agree with some of the other commenters -- grounding should have been turned off, especially given the jump to 8 steps -- perhaps it's no coincidence that the flash model got exactly the best answer that happened to be only reached by its sibling model. It would be very interesting to see this test run again with grounding turned off. Indeed I asked the flash model and it said it should be turned off "otherwise it allows the model to look up the exact test question, find existing answer keys or leaked solutions online and simply copy the results."
it's basically "not giving up" strategy, interesting...