Modern Aether Theory: Models Converging in the Shadows - Formscapes, DemystifySci #406
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Top Comments (10)
The Aether cannot be a gas. If the Aether were made of discrete particles with gaps between them, then you would need another medium between those particles to explain how they interact, whether through attraction, repulsion, or pressure. That creates an infinite regression problem. What fills the gaps between those particles? More particles with more gaps? Eventually, you are left with nothing actually connecting anything. This defeats the entire point of a medium. A real medium must be continuous, not granular. Just like you cannot push a rope made of disconnected beads and expect a wave to travel, you cannot transmit force, flow, or acceleration through a medium full of gaps. That is why the Aether cannot be particulate in nature. It must be fully continuous, like a fluid with zero tolerance for emptiness. Even a gas, no matter how rarefied, still has something in between its particles. Otherwise, nothing could interact. Pressure, temperature, and motion would have no medium to act through. That “something” in between is the Aether. If there were truly nothing between gas particles, sound couldn’t travel, light couldn’t pass, and no forces could act. Aether fills that role. It is the continuous background that connects everything, even in a vacuum. It’s not made of particles, it is the medium through which particles exist and interact.
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I think we all want to think that we have the answer. I know I do. I do think I'm getting closer, but I also feel like each time I've stepped back that I've barely started. Like I'm working more on me than I am on it. Which, perhaps that's fair when one is still heavily learning.
We need a term for scientific Protestantism..
Thanks for bringing him on again . Always great to listen to you 3
Yay! More aether theories. I even heard that Albert Einstein in his later years said that an aether is needed. I still think that the aether is simply the vacuum energy, but that's like a medium with "pressure" differences one can think of it as. Edit: Great point you mentioned about how the electrons involve the three-body problem. I hadn't thought of that.
Great discussion. I always make sure to tune in when you guys have Kehlan on the podcast. Also I really appreciate your more optimistic outlook on the future, it's a breath of fresh air in the current stream of content on the web.
High philosophy. Kudos. Very interesting!
Right on. Thanks for sharing. ✌️🖖
Ahhh I love you guys, and Keeelannnn...found you both separately and so happy you both have come together for discussions...my fave two youtube channels! Wish I could financially support you both, but alas I too am a poet/musician/artist/millennial. Keep up the great light hearted yet deep convos to understand this crazy pattern we call "reality" I can hear and feel your passion for ideas, reality, philosophy, creativity, connectivity.....it makes my heart smile. Love loves to share, open and vulnerably... to understand, just to end up more confused...to find meaning again, and again, and again, thrice around the fire, we spiral...to live, to experience, to learn, to forget, to gain, to lose, to find balance, to find each other, to find ourselves, or just to distract us from the grinding of the machine that's lacking in lubrication... "We have to go out of our minds - to come to our senses" - Alan Watts
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The Aether cannot be a gas. If the Aether were made of discrete particles with gaps between them, then you would need another medium between those particles to explain how they interact, whether through attraction, repulsion, or pressure. That creates an infinite regression problem. What fills the gaps between those particles? More particles with more gaps? Eventually, you are left with nothing actually connecting anything. This defeats the entire point of a medium. A real medium must be continuous, not granular. Just like you cannot push a rope made of disconnected beads and expect a wave to travel, you cannot transmit force, flow, or acceleration through a medium full of gaps. That is why the Aether cannot be particulate in nature. It must be fully continuous, like a fluid with zero tolerance for emptiness. Even a gas, no matter how rarefied, still has something in between its particles. Otherwise, nothing could interact. Pressure, temperature, and motion would have no medium to act through. That “something” in between is the Aether. If there were truly nothing between gas particles, sound couldn’t travel, light couldn’t pass, and no forces could act. Aether fills that role. It is the continuous background that connects everything, even in a vacuum. It’s not made of particles, it is the medium through which particles exist and interact.
Listen on the go at all podcast locations: https://anchor.fm/demystifysci Pick up our music on vinyl or stream on bandcamp, spotify, etc.. https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/products/vinyl-lp-secretary-of-nature-everything-is-so-good-here Paradox Lost is now on pre-sale! https://buy.stripe.com/7sY7sKdoN5d29eUdYddEs0b
I think we all want to think that we have the answer. I know I do. I do think I'm getting closer, but I also feel like each time I've stepped back that I've barely started. Like I'm working more on me than I am on it. Which, perhaps that's fair when one is still heavily learning.
We need a term for scientific Protestantism..
Thanks for bringing him on again . Always great to listen to you 3
Yay! More aether theories. I even heard that Albert Einstein in his later years said that an aether is needed. I still think that the aether is simply the vacuum energy, but that's like a medium with "pressure" differences one can think of it as. Edit: Great point you mentioned about how the electrons involve the three-body problem. I hadn't thought of that.
Great discussion. I always make sure to tune in when you guys have Kehlan on the podcast. Also I really appreciate your more optimistic outlook on the future, it's a breath of fresh air in the current stream of content on the web.
High philosophy. Kudos. Very interesting!
Right on. Thanks for sharing. ✌️🖖
Ahhh I love you guys, and Keeelannnn...found you both separately and so happy you both have come together for discussions...my fave two youtube channels! Wish I could financially support you both, but alas I too am a poet/musician/artist/millennial. Keep up the great light hearted yet deep convos to understand this crazy pattern we call "reality" I can hear and feel your passion for ideas, reality, philosophy, creativity, connectivity.....it makes my heart smile. Love loves to share, open and vulnerably... to understand, just to end up more confused...to find meaning again, and again, and again, thrice around the fire, we spiral...to live, to experience, to learn, to forget, to gain, to lose, to find balance, to find each other, to find ourselves, or just to distract us from the grinding of the machine that's lacking in lubrication... "We have to go out of our minds - to come to our senses" - Alan Watts