Response To Engineers Should Be Held Reliable

The only reason C suites exist is to be in charge of a team, therefore responsible for them. If engineers will be responsible for all they produce can we just fire all C suites?

No liability without ownership

Reliable? you mean liable? or responsible?

As a civil engineer, I would like to point out that yes its more complex to build bigger house than smaller house. lmao. The reason we have models and actual buildings afterwards. As a software engineer, what I've noticed is because its easy to cut corners in software, managment will force you to do so and hence increasing the chances of enshitification. Its like civil engineers delivering the model houses as final projects.

It’s not like having a plumber. It’s like having 10 plumbers, 2 leads and a manager that order the plumbers around when working on your bathroom, and then a plumber is ordered to use let’s say half the sealant quantity so they can save some money. And then you try and sue the plumber. If that 1 plumber would refuse, he’d just get replaced with someone who wouldn’t refuse.

Honestly if Developers can get held liable for stuff, that means I can make demands as a developer. I’m not working on a garbage app if I can be held liable for bad outcomes.

I think people don't realize how little control any single engineer has Especially in large corporations you have to get things tested, team reviewed, approved by your lead/business partner etc etc No single person is responsible for such a event of anyone is responsible it is the CEO/CTO for not having better control systems

If you believe software engineers are well paid then you should see what will happen to their salaries once they begin to be held responsible for the consequences their software, it will fucking skyrocket

Company makes record profit because engineer did a good job --> ceo and c-suite get bonuses. Company crashes whole world computers because they didn't hire testers , outsourced all the work ---> ceo and c-suite still get bonuses, engineers are held responsible.

Charlie Munger used to say "reverse it" and see if it still works. Instead of saying we're going to hold engineers financeable liable for mistakes, we reverse it and say, we're going to make liable and compensate engineers, above their salary and percentage based, for all successes. Yeah, they'd never do that in the same scope.