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Navy SEAL: “Not Killing People Is Hard” - DJ Shipley

2026-06-18 People & Blogs
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DJ Shipley is a retired Navy SEAL and former DEVGRU operator. What's life like after the Navy SEALs? After years of operating at the highest level, many veterans face a challenge they never expected: returning to normal life. When the adrenaline, purpose, and brotherhood disappear overnight, how do you find your footing again? Expect to learn what the hardest part about leaving military life behind is, why it’s so hard to turn off trained military hyper-vigilance, how DJ would end the war in Iran fast, the story of DJ’s suicide attempt and his path to redemption, how DMT saved DJ’s life, why divorce is just the cost of doing business as a Navy SEAL and much more… - Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get up to 20% off Timeline powered by Mitopure (now at a lower price) at https://timeline.com/modernwisdom Get 10% discount on all Gymshark products at https://gym.sh/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM10) Get the brand new Whoop 5.0 and your first month for free at https://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom - 0:00 Why It’s So Hard to Leave the Military 4:21 The Pressure of Putting Others in Danger 6:31 Are All Navy SEALs Built for Combat? 9:53 Why Going Pro Early Changes Everything 20:57 Inside Life on 30-Minute Recall 24:54 Should Navy SEALs Have Families While Serving? 26:56 The Ugly Reality of Collateral Damage 37:20 Is the Modern World Incompatible With War? 42:27 How Could We End the Iran War Quickly? 48:38 Would Trump Make a Good Navy SEAL? 50:37 The Biggest Myths About Special Operations 56:56 How Lawless Is Special Ops? 01:00:34 Should the Bin Laden Raid Have Stayed Secret? 01:11:11 How Britain Treats Its Veterans 01:16:48 How Combat Changes You 01:22:42 Why Isn’t Sleep Optimised in the Military? 01:25:03 Does Compartmentalisation Ruin Relationships? 01:41:06 The Most Impressive Operator DJ Ever Met 01:43:56 The Formula for Building Elite Operators 01:45:20 The Drug Detox That Ended in Electrocution 02:04:18 The Psychological Challenges of Life After Service 02:08:40 The Trip That Changed DJ’s Life 02:19:25 How DMT Led to Redemption 02:39:26 Can DMT Lead to Bad Realisations? 02:42:38 Can Psychedelics Improve Your Health? 02:53:07 Why Mental Health Advocacy Matters 02:59:04 Where to Find DJ - Get access to every episode 10 hours before YouTube by subscribing for free on Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2MNqIgw Get my free Reading List of 100 life-changing books here - https://chriswillx.com/books/ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic here - https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch in the comments below or head to... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/

Top Comments (10)

@Thevalkyrietribe 2026-06-18

I’ve trained a lot of service dogs for special operations guys. 100% of the time the ego of the operator is in the way. They are stuck in the persona of only being an operator. They treat their families like team members. I’ve been able to break through that ego on a few of them. Most of them continue to chase the high of the high of work life. They avoid their families. It’s super sad to see.

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@chrishabgood8900 2026-06-18

his interview on the shawn ryan show was super insane..

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@3musiccc 2026-06-18

The most honorable thing a soldier can do is be honest.

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@danporath536 2026-06-18

When you have a niche skill, you are a NICHE PERSONALITY that is addicted to the adrenaline.

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@Neuroshiftdaily 2026-06-18

Losing the mission can be harder than surviving the battle. Purpose has to be rebuilt, not just remembered. 🧠

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@ChrisWillx 2026-06-15

Hello you beauties. Access every episode 10 hours before YouTube for free on Spotify - https://spotify.modernwisdom.com or Apple Podcasts - https://apple.modernwisdom.com Here’s the timestamps: 0:00 Why It’s So Hard to Leave the Military 4:21 The Pressure of Putting Others in Danger 6:31 Are All Navy SEALs Built for Combat? 9:53 Why Going Pro Early Changes Everything 20:57 Inside Life on 30-Minute Recall 24:54 Should Navy SEALs Have Families While Serving? 26:56 The Ugly Reality of Collateral Damage 37:20 Is the Modern World Incompatible With War? 42:27 How Could We End the Iran War Quickly? 48:38 Would Trump Make a Good Navy SEAL? 50:37 The Biggest Myths About Special Operations 56:56 How Lawless Is Special Ops? 01:00:34 Should the Bin Laden Raid Have Stayed Secret? 01:11:11 How Britain Treats Its Veterans 01:16:48 How Combat Changes You 01:22:42 Why Isn’t Sleep Optimised in the Military? 01:25:03 Does Compartmentalisation Ruin Relationships? 01:41:06 The Most Impressive Operator DJ Ever Met 01:43:56 The Formula for Building Elite Operators 01:45:20 The Drug Detox That Ended in Electrocution 02:04:18 The Psychological Challenges of Life After Service 02:08:40 The Trip That Changed DJ’s Life 02:19:25 How DMT Led to Redemption 02:39:26 Can DMT Lead to Bad Realisations? 02:42:38 Can Psychedelics Improve Your Health? 02:53:07 Why Mental Health Advocacy Matters 02:59:04 Where to Find DJ

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@Inside2292 2026-06-18

So many people put their whole identity in jobs/relationships/money and when they lose that certain thing they lose their full identity. Just put your identity in the most high God, you will never be lost🌟

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@CyclopsGuitars8642 2026-06-19

I’ve never been in the military but I really enjoy these videos but this episode was just so good.We are really lucky to have these guys protecting our freedom. Thank you

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@p0kks-yt 2026-06-18

Almost killed myself speedflying. My friend saved my life. I have 7 friends that have lost their life to airports. This guy speaks truth

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@Go0dT1me5 2026-06-19

The only 2hr + podcast ever ever listened through until completion. What an amazing conversation indeed.

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