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What Carl Jung's Most Important Book Tells Us

2023-10-29 Education
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As part of our book club on YouTube, Hans Busstra has made a book review of ‘Answer to Job’ by Carl Gustav Jung. Interviewees: Dr. Hans van den Hooff, Jungian psychoanalyst and Bernardo Kastrup PhD, philosopher and director of the Essentia Foundation. Regarded by Jung as his most important work, Answer to Job is a tour de force in which classical Christian doctrine is turned upside down: Jung argued that the incarnation of Christ was not to redeem humanity for its sins against God, but to redeem God for his sin against Job. In the Book of Job it became clear to Jung that Yahweh, though omniscient, had not consulted his own omniscience, remaining 'unconscious' of a dark side within himself—i.e. his fallen son Satan. In the language of analytic idealism: mind at large is not meta-cognitive. In almost all of Christian theology the Book of Job is analyzed as an example of God's mysterious ways, his unfathomable masterplan for the universe. Ergo, Job suffers purposefully, but will never be able to grasp the higher divine reason of his suffering. Yet, Jung concluded exactly the opposite: Yahweh does not have a full picture, he is an amoral force of nature ‘that cannot see its own back.’ Job is morally superior to Yahweh as he does see the inner antinomy within Yahweh. According to Jung, if held up to his own standards, Yahweh had sinned against Job, and Job subtly confronted Yahweh with this fact. This made the incarnation of Christ not a story about the redemption of humanity for its sins against God, but a redemption of God for his sin against Job. To Hans Busstra, who has a Christian background, this ‘blasphemous’ analysis of Jung made a deep impact, in a positive sense. Though it is highly unlikely that the Church will ever accept Jung's reading, the new depth he saw in Christian mythology makes the tradition urgently relevant again for this day and age. Nature, God, Mind at Large becomes meta-cognitive through us, and this makes the human experience of crucial importance in our universe. 00:00 Intro 01:21 Did Jung believe in God? 03:33 Jung predicted the rise of the Nazi's through studying the unconscious 05:28 Brief summary of the Book of Job 07:09 God's unsatisfying answer to Job 10:31 The interaction between the Ego and the Self 13:33 God has no morality 17:59 The seminal importance of Job's interaction with Yahweh 18:59 Jesus died for God's sins... 22:42 God's dark side and the incongruity in Christianity 26:54 The clinical take-away from Answer to Job 29:47 What it means to Hans personally 32:15 The importance of Answer to Job according to Bernardo Kastrup 34:14 How Jung vindicate his father through this book 35:39 This is the book that can save Christianity! 37:12 What does Jung mean when he talks about Yahweh? 38:09 How Job made Yahweh more conscious 41:13 Satan, Yahweh and the work of Hegel 43:03 The evolution of Satan 44:31 On the feminine side of God: Sophia,Wisdom 51:02 The male versus the female archetype when it comes to God 54:24 The importance of Answer to Job to this day and age 1:00:20 Jung's idealist metaphysics 1:02:25 Closing remarks: how this book can save Christianity Copyright © 2023 by Essentia Foundation. All rights reserved.

Top Comments (10)

@johnnikitakis876 2023-10-30

At time stamp 19:15 you avoid the concept of Yahweh committing sin. This is rooted in the Christian misunderstanding of the word sin because of the doctrine of original sin. The word sin is an archery term. To sin is to miss the mark. An archer can miss hitting the bulls eye 999 times, and that does not detract from hitting the bull's eye perfectly on the thousandth cast. In Job, Yahweh misses the mark, just as your example with your children. This actually makes the possibility of Christ's birth, death and resurrection resulting in a change in the fundamental way Yahweh / Jehovah relates to humanity a great possibility. Living the life of Christ perhaps allows Yahweh to live a life that morality is integrated into while still being fire and direct action (money changers in the temple) Michael on a white horse with a sword in its mouth at the end of days. Not a change but a maturing reflected in humanity itself.

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@Baina24 2023-11-14

I almost had a stroke listening to this😢 my Christian upbringing was fighting like hell… I love this conversation, I wish I could discuss this with my fellow Christians.

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@alexvatoussis6001 2023-10-30

I am amazed at the quality of this video and the amount of time that it required. Thank you for this! The recent uploads from Essentia Foundation have truly impressed me.

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@doughaynes4329 2023-11-02

The first direct contact I had with Jung's work was Answer to Job some 25 years ago, having left the church a few years earlier in search of more complete answers to my questions about life. My immediate response was that the book was both blasphemous and correct. It thrilled me and frightened me simultaneously. I loved it and have never looked back. This video is an excellent discussion of the work.

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@nathananderson8720 2023-11-13

This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my YouTube channel 8 months ago about self development. Now I have 937 subs and > 800 hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.

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@Meatyowlleg 2023-11-13

Very glad to find this channel. As someone who born in china and moved with young ages to a western country, I learned to adapt and believed that the western dualistic way of thinking was superior. I was baptized in the chirch, after noticed the power structure within the protestant community, I came in contact with the heavily flawed postmodernism as a student. I noticed that a lot of the modern divisions are rooted in the dualism view of the Christianity and its extrem counter-movements. Where the essence of the believe can judge and questioning everything but its own core(ego). And now I'm slowly find my root back in Taoism, which Jung also mentioned alot in his books. I discovered there is a lot of parallels with other indigenous spiritual practices, like the holistic contemplation, that the nurture should serve and learn from the nature. I do think a holistic approach is the way out of the suffering created by separation of the two brains. Yet we human like simple stories to learn new things, and those stories always have a good and a bad guy😂

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@juliahowell7250 2023-11-14

As the prayer states”…Lead us not into temptation” a classic clue of the darkness

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@jjjones4458 2024-06-12

I was born Christian, eventually left the religion due to troubles with certain beliefs not aligning with reality. After the last 6 months and thanks to this video, I feel I’d consider myself a gnostic. Thank you for sharing this

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@acenull0 2023-11-05

What a profound talk ❤️🔥😭 holy crap 😂 I wasn't ready. Thank you both 😘

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@thymeparzival 2024-02-06

@51:00 The discussion explores the concept of the male representing “Perfection” and the female representing “Completeness” which is poetic because the etymology of the word “Perfect” is “Completion.” Jung was expressing the idea that the dualities complete each other perfectly.

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