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High School Dropout Turned Harvard Professor Shares What’s Wrong with Education | The Way I Heard It

2025-03-05 Entertainment
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Todd Rose dropped out of high school with a 0.9 GPA and a pregnant girlfriend. No prospects, no road map, no plan. Wound up becoming a professor at Harvard. Quit, to establish populace.org, a think tank in Massachusetts designed to offer a variety of bottom-up solutions to all sorts of problems, while challenging a great many of the things a lot of otherwise intelligent people mistakenly believe. Fundamentally, Todd is all about helping the individual thrive in a world of cookie-cutter solutions. Todd has an incredible story, and several incredible books you should read with all due speed. One is called Dark Horse, another is called The End of Average. His most recent is called Collective Illusions, and it holds the solutions to a great many problems facing this country. It's also a lot of fun to read. Almost as much fun as the conversation you're about to watch. #podcast #education #school My foundation is giving away $2.5 million in trade scholarships. Apply by April 17: https://mikeroweworks.org/scholarship/ Knobel Tennessee Whiskey—Try one of four delicious flavors: https://knobelspirits.com Subscribe to my channel: https://www.youtube.com/@therealmikerowe Subscribe to my new shorts channel for those of you with a short attention span: https://www.youtube.com/@therealmikeroweshorts If you like me, and even if you don't, follow me. Much obliged. http://instagr.am/mikerowe/ http://fb.me/TheRealMikeRowe http://twttr.com/mikeroweworks https://rumble.com/c/MikeRowe 00:00 Todd getting kicked out of high school 11:41 Todd’s road to Harvard 21:42 Going against standardization 35:04 The battle of the collars 43:38 Ending compliance culture 53:17 Prioritizing meaningful work 1:05:23 Todd’s think tank 1:20:01 Collective illusions in the workforce

Top Comments (10)

@lindadrake2496 2025-03-06

My grandson had social issues in school, then covid happened. At 16 he started working at taco bell, then 2 year's at Burger King. He learned to be social , work hard , be responsible, do customer service, and cashier. He has passed 2 GED tests, and now at 18 just got his driver's license, first car , saving money , investing in some stocks , very smart . He's learned more the last 3 years than he ever did in public school.

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@TestPilotN911RG 2025-03-05

Public schools use to teach trades. I learned to build a house in high school in the 70s.

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@DrofJustice 2025-03-06

Wow! Great discussion. I’m a HS dropout with 2 doctorate degrees who homeschooled a son after a middle school special ed coordinator tried to convince me he had reached his potential at 12. We studied Latin, Linguistics, and Logic together, then I sent him off to his 1st choice college on scholarship, where his professors truly appreciated the genius. Four years of Dean’s list performance later he graduated and took a university job in the research laboratories. He knew what he wanted to study - Biological Anthropology - at age 12. Now at 33, he’s a lifelong learner with super interesting hobbies. He works to make money so he can enjoy his time off.

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@chrismiller100 2025-03-05

When I was in 11th grade my mother pulled me from school because the violence was getting out of hand. The KKK had been rallying at the schools in St Lucie county in the early 90’s, and it even brought Jerry Springer into town. Anyways, I got my GED and jumped into the workforce. While I worked odd jobs, I taught myself computer programming in the mid 90s. In 2000 I got a job as an IT Technician. 25 years later I’m still with the same company, now a database admin making $170,000 salary. I’m living proof that you don’t need a college education to get into a good career, even in the tech industry.

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@JohnA000 2025-03-07

I went to a public HS back in the 60's. It wasn't the best. But we were being taught what we needed to know to get into college. We were also taught to be proud to be an American. To pledge our allegiance to this country. To be respectful to our teachers and our elders. It is a shame what schools have become today. Too much nonsense.

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@chesiedengun 2025-03-08

I have sixth graders who can't spell, seventh graders who can't read, third graders who do not know they are looking at the map of the USA. It is so very sad.

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@TMstr100 2025-03-08

I wish this kinda thing would have happened 50, 60 years ago. I was so bored in school. I didn't graduate either. I found my calling while in the Army, electronics repair. I was a radar tech and turned that into a career in business-class two way radio and paging. Both of which are nearly gone due to advances in technology. Let's hope that this helps our young people, who are already behind due to the way things are run now.

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@JanetKosick 2025-03-10

The timing of this discussion is a god-send; 65 years old, too “young” to retire & my job of 20 years suddenly a position that is now “eliminated”. I am way too young to retire, physically, mentally & financially! Happiness in what I can do with others needs to be my #1 priority!!

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@barrygrant2907 2025-03-08

If one feels being a plumber is a lower-class status, wait until one needs a plumber to unstop your sewer line and see how much of your upper-class money that lower-class worker takes!

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@Ameborl 2025-03-25

And people complain about shutting down the Department of Education! This is a blessing!

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