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I'm carnivore, and I like this guy. But he's almost impossible for many people to listen to. It's not his accent - I'm not trashing that. He's gone out of his way to learn good English - wonderful! The problem is that he's all over the place with his message. He's not delivering the info about deuterium in an organized fashion. For people to understand something new like this, we need to be given context. He does give some - he explains how deuterium is a hydrogen atom (a proton and an electron) but with a neutron added (making it an isotope of hydrogen). Here's the main problem that too much deuterium causes, according to Sara Pugh and Bart Kay. In the mitochondria, energy substrates are stripped down in a series of enzyme reactions in the Kreb cycle. Glucose, fats, ketone bodies - I think a few other fuels. These are hydrocarbons. We're going to ignore what happens to the carbon (it is used and turned into CO2, which we breathe out). We're just now going to focus on what happens to the hydrogen. Okay, the hydrogen that's in glucose, fats or ketone bodies - it gets stripped down to single hydrogen atoms. So a big molecule like glucose is C6H12O6. Those 12 hydrogens get stripped out and become individual hydrogen atoms, and they approach the Electron Transport Chain or ETC. This is a membrane in the mitochondria. Then, these hydrogen atoms get their electron stripped off. The electron stays on the side of the ETC or membrane we start on. They shoot down and get "held" - so to say - by oxygen. Now hydrogen is just a hydrogen nucleus - or a proton. The protons move along the ETC and find one of two structures - these are nano size valves, sort of, in this membrane. Iirc one is complex II and one is complex IV. Anyway, the protons shoot through to the other side of the ETC/membrane. Now we have a charge gradient. Positive on the other side where the protons are. Negative on the starting side, where the electrons are. This is important. Now, the protons move down near another "valve" called complex V. It is like a tiny nano scale millwheel. It's shaped like a top. The negative charge on the original side pulls the protons through complex V. They go through very fast in large numbers. As they go through, they hit this top shaped nano millwheel and spin it very fast. Now, down at the tip of this spinning thing, the "magic happens." Mitochondria change food energy or substrate energy into a molecule called ATP (adenosine triphosphate), which the cell can actually use for energy. The average human makes (by recycling) 110 lbs or so of ATP a day! ATP, when made, diffuses out through the cellular fluid where it's needed - an enzyme hits it, and the enzyme knocks off one of the inorganic phosphates or a Pi. This releases the chemical energy that was held by that bond, which is how muscles move - neurons fire signals - and so on. After this cleaving we have an ADP or adenosine diphosphate and a Pi. They return to the mitochondria, where they get near this tiny spinning top in complex V of the ETC. Somehow, energy from this spinning goes to the ADP and Pi - and makes them join or bond again. Now they're ATP. They diffuse back out and get used. The ADP and Pi go back, get rebound or re-energized - and go back out to the cell. Over and over and over. THis is how we live, or a major part of life. The hydrogen nucleus, or protons - after they shoot through complex five - they join w/ oxygen on the original side of the ETC (membrane) and make water. This is the water he was talking about. Anyway, here is what goes wrong when we consume too much deuterium (from seed oils and plant foods, or bad water). We're evolved to handle a certain small amount of deuterium. From many years of evolution. We didn't eat seed oils, which are high in deuterium, until very recently. We're not adapted to handle excess deuterium. So, excess deuterium means in the above process, more and more deuterium isotopes join the hydrogen on the ETC. They get their electron stripped off. Leaving a proton-neutron. The proton-neutron crosses over the ETC just like a hydrogen nucleus. Then - it's still positively charged - it gets pulled through complex V just like a simple proton does. BUT this proton-neutron is twice as massive as a proton. THis means is SLOWS DOWN the spinning. When enough of these are going through complex V, it's ability to output new recycled ATP is reduced. So, in the mitochondria, ADP and Pi is lining up, so to speak, waiting to be rejoined at complex V. When they don't go through at the expected rate, bad things happen. I don't know what ADP does - it may not cause harm. But the Pi - the inorganic phosphate - it causes trouble. As it backs up, it diffuses to places in the mitochondria and maybe outside it - places it's not supposed to go. It goes to where cells keep cytokines, chemicals, which are kept in an inactive form, ready for an emergency - they trigger an appropriate inflammation response to an injury, disease, or toxin. It is known in human physiology that inorganic phosphate can activate or trigger cytokines and initiate a "bad" form of inflammation. Good or acute inflammation is usually helpful for us. Might keep us alive. But when Pi comes to where these cytokines are stored, it activates them - and this is inappropriate inflammation. It's like someone pulling a fire alarm when there is no fire. Inflammation that gets triggered inappropriately - for no good reason - causes damage. It can harm and even destroy mitochondria - other organelles - it can damage DNA. It has to be chronic and happen often for a long time to do this, but a bad diet of too much deuterium can cause this chronic, longterm inflammation. I hope this helps. I love Dr. Chaffee's videos.
Merry Christmas fellow carnivores 😊
Grateful for this information. Wish this was published a good while ago, as in during the time that my husband was alive. He was told eat plants, veggies, fruits and stay away from 🥩. If he went 🥩carnivore, I now know he would be still alive today.
Scientists are not public speakers and you have to be patient and listen carefully. Pretty good talk and this is probably his second language 😊
You can tell what a great talk this is simply by watching how carefully Dr. Chaffee is listening. Thank you Professor Boros!
I can understand him just fine.
Oh boy, I have occasionally heard of this but never spent any time on it. Now I'm going to be geeking out researching this for potentially weeks. Great stuff!
I posted the link but my comment was deleted. Here is the citation instead... Korchinsky, N., Davis, A.M. & Boros, L.G. Nutritional deuterium depletion and health: a scoping review. Metabolomics 20, 117 (2024).
The core message: eat carnivore and make sure you get plenty of fat on those cuts, steaks, etc. Order trimmings if you have to. Deuterium (heavy water) is not great, got it.
Been carnivore for about 2 months felt amazing lost nearly 4 stones had a couple days of eating carbs feel crappie
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I'm carnivore, and I like this guy. But he's almost impossible for many people to listen to. It's not his accent - I'm not trashing that. He's gone out of his way to learn good English - wonderful! The problem is that he's all over the place with his message. He's not delivering the info about deuterium in an organized fashion. For people to understand something new like this, we need to be given context. He does give some - he explains how deuterium is a hydrogen atom (a proton and an electron) but with a neutron added (making it an isotope of hydrogen). Here's the main problem that too much deuterium causes, according to Sara Pugh and Bart Kay. In the mitochondria, energy substrates are stripped down in a series of enzyme reactions in the Kreb cycle. Glucose, fats, ketone bodies - I think a few other fuels. These are hydrocarbons. We're going to ignore what happens to the carbon (it is used and turned into CO2, which we breathe out). We're just now going to focus on what happens to the hydrogen. Okay, the hydrogen that's in glucose, fats or ketone bodies - it gets stripped down to single hydrogen atoms. So a big molecule like glucose is C6H12O6. Those 12 hydrogens get stripped out and become individual hydrogen atoms, and they approach the Electron Transport Chain or ETC. This is a membrane in the mitochondria. Then, these hydrogen atoms get their electron stripped off. The electron stays on the side of the ETC or membrane we start on. They shoot down and get "held" - so to say - by oxygen. Now hydrogen is just a hydrogen nucleus - or a proton. The protons move along the ETC and find one of two structures - these are nano size valves, sort of, in this membrane. Iirc one is complex II and one is complex IV. Anyway, the protons shoot through to the other side of the ETC/membrane. Now we have a charge gradient. Positive on the other side where the protons are. Negative on the starting side, where the electrons are. This is important. Now, the protons move down near another "valve" called complex V. It is like a tiny nano scale millwheel. It's shaped like a top. The negative charge on the original side pulls the protons through complex V. They go through very fast in large numbers. As they go through, they hit this top shaped nano millwheel and spin it very fast. Now, down at the tip of this spinning thing, the "magic happens." Mitochondria change food energy or substrate energy into a molecule called ATP (adenosine triphosphate), which the cell can actually use for energy. The average human makes (by recycling) 110 lbs or so of ATP a day! ATP, when made, diffuses out through the cellular fluid where it's needed - an enzyme hits it, and the enzyme knocks off one of the inorganic phosphates or a Pi. This releases the chemical energy that was held by that bond, which is how muscles move - neurons fire signals - and so on. After this cleaving we have an ADP or adenosine diphosphate and a Pi. They return to the mitochondria, where they get near this tiny spinning top in complex V of the ETC. Somehow, energy from this spinning goes to the ADP and Pi - and makes them join or bond again. Now they're ATP. They diffuse back out and get used. The ADP and Pi go back, get rebound or re-energized - and go back out to the cell. Over and over and over. THis is how we live, or a major part of life. The hydrogen nucleus, or protons - after they shoot through complex five - they join w/ oxygen on the original side of the ETC (membrane) and make water. This is the water he was talking about. Anyway, here is what goes wrong when we consume too much deuterium (from seed oils and plant foods, or bad water). We're evolved to handle a certain small amount of deuterium. From many years of evolution. We didn't eat seed oils, which are high in deuterium, until very recently. We're not adapted to handle excess deuterium. So, excess deuterium means in the above process, more and more deuterium isotopes join the hydrogen on the ETC. They get their electron stripped off. Leaving a proton-neutron. The proton-neutron crosses over the ETC just like a hydrogen nucleus. Then - it's still positively charged - it gets pulled through complex V just like a simple proton does. BUT this proton-neutron is twice as massive as a proton. THis means is SLOWS DOWN the spinning. When enough of these are going through complex V, it's ability to output new recycled ATP is reduced. So, in the mitochondria, ADP and Pi is lining up, so to speak, waiting to be rejoined at complex V. When they don't go through at the expected rate, bad things happen. I don't know what ADP does - it may not cause harm. But the Pi - the inorganic phosphate - it causes trouble. As it backs up, it diffuses to places in the mitochondria and maybe outside it - places it's not supposed to go. It goes to where cells keep cytokines, chemicals, which are kept in an inactive form, ready for an emergency - they trigger an appropriate inflammation response to an injury, disease, or toxin. It is known in human physiology that inorganic phosphate can activate or trigger cytokines and initiate a "bad" form of inflammation. Good or acute inflammation is usually helpful for us. Might keep us alive. But when Pi comes to where these cytokines are stored, it activates them - and this is inappropriate inflammation. It's like someone pulling a fire alarm when there is no fire. Inflammation that gets triggered inappropriately - for no good reason - causes damage. It can harm and even destroy mitochondria - other organelles - it can damage DNA. It has to be chronic and happen often for a long time to do this, but a bad diet of too much deuterium can cause this chronic, longterm inflammation. I hope this helps. I love Dr. Chaffee's videos.
Merry Christmas fellow carnivores 😊
Grateful for this information. Wish this was published a good while ago, as in during the time that my husband was alive. He was told eat plants, veggies, fruits and stay away from 🥩. If he went 🥩carnivore, I now know he would be still alive today.
Scientists are not public speakers and you have to be patient and listen carefully. Pretty good talk and this is probably his second language 😊
You can tell what a great talk this is simply by watching how carefully Dr. Chaffee is listening. Thank you Professor Boros!
I can understand him just fine.
Oh boy, I have occasionally heard of this but never spent any time on it. Now I'm going to be geeking out researching this for potentially weeks. Great stuff!
I posted the link but my comment was deleted. Here is the citation instead... Korchinsky, N., Davis, A.M. & Boros, L.G. Nutritional deuterium depletion and health: a scoping review. Metabolomics 20, 117 (2024).
The core message: eat carnivore and make sure you get plenty of fat on those cuts, steaks, etc. Order trimmings if you have to. Deuterium (heavy water) is not great, got it.
Been carnivore for about 2 months felt amazing lost nearly 4 stones had a couple days of eating carbs feel crappie